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Discussion in 'Wood / Woodwork / Carpentry' started by BARCUD, 22 Dec 2013.

  1. BARCUD

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    Hi all. I have finished my second project, open kitchen shelving unit with 3 drawers and now want to move on. Underneath this unit I would like to put together a base cabinet, 2 doors and 2 drawers I think, or perhaps a row of baskets instead of one of the doors? with a nice top. Would you guys put the frame together first then fit the doors, or make the doors first and make the frame to fit? It might not matter but I don't know.
     
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    i always build the frame 1st then make any doors to fit.
     
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    thanks gregers. I used quite cheap bits of pine for my shelving unit. For a base kitchen unit what type/s of wood do you use for each bit?
    I'm not working from any plans and I have just a 2 draw, 2 door idea in my head. Any tips when it comes to making cabinets?
     
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    if any of the pieces are on show then use prepared timber,if its hidden then you may get away with sawn?

    your best bet is to look on line or get some books on furniture making etc to get a good idea on what size timber is best to use,because you could spend a bit more then you need to?.
     
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    thanks again. I've checked for books online and I guess it's pot luck as to if they will be helpful or not. A few bit on youtube that are helpful.
    I've been doing okay with my dowel jig so whatever I do I will be using that. Unless I can find a way of making mortice and tenons with my 1/4" palm router?
     
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    if its just a basic frame work,then you could either just glue/screw and butt joint it together,or halving joint it,again with glue/screws.

    thing is m8,sometimes you can over complicate things when all thats needed is common sense,try to see the wood for the tress.
    in other words 'dont make things difficult for yourself' :LOL:
     
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    most off my furniture is 2x1 par frames doweled together with 9mmx88mm coverage[9x95mm actual] txg as infill in a rebate 8.75mm deep so when you clamp them back to back in pairs the cladding is flush with the inside face
    the first lot are the sidewalls with routered molding on the inner face on the outside
    the doors are identical except all outer faces are molded to match

    i also use 2x1 batons for drawer runners top and bottom off every drawer i also use 2x1" for the shelve supports
     
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    That sounds interesting as the back of my shelving unit, which will be placed on the wall above the proposed base unit, is rebated and has t&g. Your plan could match.
    So are you saying your sides are double t&g thick?
     
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    no single
    but you do each side as a pair so half the clamps and batons
    as in lh side and rhs panels back to back batons on the front face surface and clamp
    ideally a clamp every 10" or so minimum more at the ends [6-8" ideal]as you get cupping
    i tend to use 3 at each end and about 6-8 each side on a 18"deep by 33-38" high panel

    on a dresser aim for around 2/5ths base height and 3/5ths top height
    so a 7ft dresser will be 84" with a base 33" and a top 51" but you can adjust this by several inches but to much the proportions will start to look wrong
     
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    ah, gotcha. I am really gonna have to get some more clamps.

    Nadolig llawen to you and all.
     
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    lidls and aldies sometimes do one handed clamps
    they are not as strong but will do the job perfectly well
     
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    There might be good tips on how to make cabinets on a woodworking program that is being shown all day on the Shed channel. One or two of the programs are about cabinet making.
     
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    good ole norm, :LOL: new yankee workshop by any chance?
    he puts biggy to shame on the ammount of tools the guy has.

    'safety guards have been removed for photographic purposes only'
     
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    you need to remember you will have 10 people with similar tools who will work in 10 different ways
    then when you have limited tools you will have many more combinations

    for example
    I use dowels and a rebate and txg infills someone else will use a pocket jig and ply panels
    someone else will use buiscuts and a mdf shaker style
    then you have the kitchen cupboard style cutter sets for a 1/2" and a router table that gives you panels in a groove and surface glue joints with no physical fixings[screws dowels or biscuits ]
    the list goes on :D
    http://www.rutlands.co.uk/sp+woodwo...rail-stile-cabinet-door-set-1-2-tornado+tr306

    other sets available :D
     
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    Yes, the yankee workshop. And boy, does he have a well kitted workshop! On one program he say's the project will only need 3 main power tools to complete, then he uses around another 6 non main power tools!!! Some interesting stuff though, glad I watched.
    Dowels will be my main method at the moment, and t&g panels. Until I find a way to cut mortice and tenons using a circular saw and 1/4 palm router!?
    My tool list grows but it will have to wait.
     
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