Brexit Is a Complete failure

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90% of British imports are tariff free so you've been sold a pup if you don't believe they are.
London is a leading financial capital of the world, it's location being a contributing factor.
The eu along with Britain is being manipulated by big corporations who run rings round them. (Tax being one of them)perhaps there's an argument to be had for for joining together and trying to do something about that.
This all pales into insignificance when you look at what the eu is about.
thank you for admitting you dont understand what the Single Market does.

90% of British imports are tariff free so you've been sold a pup if you don't believe they are
tariffs are not the major barrier to international trade

removal of tariffs inside the Customs union is not the major benefit of the Single Market

This all pales into insignificance when you look at what the eu is about.
which is what?

brexit has unleashed right wing populism, Tufton street network, rise of libertarian think tanks, freeports, charter cities
 
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So the snake oil you bought from Farago isn't workin' out for ya?
Qu'elle surprise.
He did some good work to get the referendum vote but knew his limitations when pitted against the establishment, hence his feathering of his own nest.
 
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how do you think brexit could have been better
You frame Brexit as some sort of governance when it's nothing of the sort.
Brexit was a catalyst to create a country where the political class could have their input into running an independent country and it's citizens would decide at the ballot box who was most successful.
That has never seen the light of day due to what passes in this country as the political class.
 
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He did some good work to get the referendum vote but knew his limitations when pitted against the establishment, hence his feathering of his own nest.

But you also said about Farage:
Farage is part of the establishment and a sh*thouse for selling brexiteers out is another view held by some brexiteers.
So is he part of the establishment or not?
 
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Brexit was a catalyst to create a country where the political class could have their input into running an independent country and it's citizens would decide at the ballot box who was most successful.

As far as I can see, before Brexit, the UK, France and Germany all had very different health, education, tax, benefits, legal, police, prison, defence and pension systems. That seems to make us all pretty independent to me. What didn't we have control over, apart from freedom of movement?
 
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You frame Brexit as some sort of governance when it's nothing of the sort
eh??

you claim brexit hasnt yielded its potential benefits because its been prevented by remainers, or Farage etc


I dont understand how you think brexit could have been better, what has it been stopped from achieving?
 
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As far as I can see, before Brexit, the UK, France and Germany all had very different health, education, tax, benefits, legal, police, prison, defence and pension systems. That seems to make us all pretty independent to me. What didn't we have control over, apart from freedom of movement?
very little in reality

the main thing is the ability to negotiate our own trade deals -not a net benefit

and regulations -but since EU regulations are largely harmonised from regulatory sector frameworks, thats not really a great benefit.
 

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Brexit was a catalyst to create a country where the political class could have their input into running an independent country and it's citizens would decide at the ballot box who was most successful.

Can you show me the Brexit manifesto where that was defined and agreed?

No you can't

Because it was just wishful thinking by one small segment of Brexers.

And now you're moaning because your fantasy was not delivered.
 
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Depends on the Union and depends whether the workers are telling the unions what they want instead of the other way round.

Do you support the 'poorly paid' train drivers?
So come on @Notch7, I answered your question, the least you could do is answer mine in return.
 
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But you also said about Farage:

So is he part of the establishment or not?
Hes part of that circle that drinks in their dens.
Bit immaterial really as the point he stood down the Brexit politicians to give the Tories governance is more a pressing question on his motivations for that manouvre.
 
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Can you show me the Brexit manifesto where that was defined and agreed?

No you can't

Because it was just wishful thinking by one small segment of Brexers.

And now you're moaning because your fantasy was not delivered.
You talk some sh*te.
 
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eh??

you claim brexit hasnt yielded its potential benefits because its been prevented by remainers, or Farage etc


I dont understand how you think brexit could have been better, what has it been stopped from achieving?
Kinnel do I have to keep go round in circles till it finally hits home.
 
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