Can anyone confirm this is wrong?

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  1. noobdiyer

    noobdiyer

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    Hi all,

    We had some work done, and I get the feeling the guy who did it didn't really know what he was doing. Being a noob, I need to confirm my noob logic.

    In the attached image:

    A - waste
    B - from the sink
    C - Fork plastic bit
    D - waste pipe for dishwasher

    http://media.diynot.com/167000_166777_46296_32899282_thumb.jpg

    D is lower than A, so logically, all our waste from B is in theory flowing to D, which can't be right?!?

    As a solution, I'm wondering if I can just:

    - Remove "D"
    - Cap off the right hand side of C with a plastic screw cover thingy.
    - Replace "B" with something of the same length, but with a entry point for the dishwasher (sort of like a T junction).

    The thing which I don't quite get is that the top of "A" has a rubber seal and small lip (about 3mm) which fits into the grey sink waste thing above it. Does this mean the T junction part is not a normal one, or do I need to ask for something special/specific? Also, are sizes/lengths standardised, or should I take the existing part with me for reference?

    I could replace "C" but not sure what the point is if I can just seal off the right hand side with a screw on cover.

    All suggestions appreciated!

    Thanks!!!

     
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    Your noob logic is spot on, get the guy/gal back to do it properly.
     
  4. noobdiyer

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    Awesome... I can feel the noob overconfidence building ;)

    To be honest, it's going to be so much bother getting him back in, I'd rather just fix it myself.

    If I take the whole of A,B,C, and D with me to a plumb center or similar tomorrow, hopefully they can sort me out!

    Thanks!
     
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    Routing the dishwasher waste pipe as high as possible, tight to the underside of the worktop will help prevent any backflow towards the dishwasher. A clip around the D/W pipe to stop it blowing off the spigot would be a good idea too. The hose may seem tight when it's cold, but once the D/W starts pumping hot water through it....

    The union with the sink waste is normal for a sink trap. The joint below it is likely to be a telescopic section with a compression fitting to nip it up.

    A trap like
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    would be the more usual fitting. It would save a bit of space in the cupboard under the sink too. Normally, the hose adaptor would be swivelled around to point upwards on installation to route the hose as above.
    A pound to a pinch of the proverbial says the trap outlet would be at a different height, so the grey solvent weld pipe would need modifying to change the trap though.
     
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    But the spigot looking up. :rolleyes:
     
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    May get away with just turning the whole thing round 180degrees so D is at A and vice versa. Looks to me like it is swept in direction of flow so is actually fitted the wrong way round.... Could need to trim a fraction off the bottom of the telescopic section (B going into C) to allow for the height difference.
     
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    Just turn the trap around, don't need to buy no new trap.
     
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    Ah... this was what I was worried about - not too keen on altering the grey solvent weld pipe. Hmm... may have to try and get someone to get this done after all.
     
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    Hugh puts forward a good idea, and I think it could work. Will do some reading on how this could be achieved as I've never trimmed down this kind of pipework before - if it's literally just cutting it, then it could work!
     
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    Yes thats why its an adjustable trap.
    Check first it will probably slide in more anyway.
     
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    B slides in C.

    Remove the trap and hose at D.

    Trim B so that D now line up with grey pipe, Fit hose to A.

    Secure all unions

    Route the dishwasher hose so that it goes up and then comes down to connect to the trap.

    Good trap, no need to get another:cool:
     
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    Just to confirm the above. The dishwasher waste is connected to what should be the outlet, and the outlet is where the dishwasher waste should be. You've got a telescopic inlet from the sink, so turn it round, adjust the telescopic part to suit, and take the dishwasher waste tight up under the sink before dropping to the nipple. This will prevent back-siphonage.
     
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    As Hugh says just reverse A and D and hook up the hose.

    I am sorry that he did not do it correctly. There is often a lack of skills in the plumbing business.

    But I put some of the blame on customers who choose whom to employ based on rock bottom prices!
     
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    seem like you have your answer........but you are not getting the person who did it back. You could at least let them know that you aint too pleased......they may even learn something from their mistake
     
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    Problem fixed - all works perfectly now, and have learned something to boot. Win-win!!! :D

    Never thought about the consequences of not informing the guys who did the job - I'll email them a picture for sure - I wouldn't want them doing that to another customer!!!!
     
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