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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by fillyboy, 27 Aug 2021.

  1. Brigade77

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    I'm sorry, but I don't frequent the type of establishment where a mans friend would love to see his arse.

    I'm very well aware that such places exist. On the basis that you have already expressed your desire to walk into a childs bedroom with the hope that they are either injecting heroin or drinking alcohol, then I think we need to stop it there.
     
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  3. johnny2007

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    You're a weirdo.
    Real people don't take things literally and use certain expressions something meaning the opposite of what's in the dictionary.
    Ever heard things like:

    F#ck me upside down (doesn't mean i really wish this)
    You're sick (means you're great - this is a newish thing)
    That's the dog's boll@x (not really, it means that's very good)
    He's brown bread (no, he didn't change from human to bread, it means he's dead)
    I could go on, but I hope this makes you understand that words and sentences can have a different meaning from what's in books, encyclopedia and dictionary.
    Believe me, I speak to real people every day.
     
  4. andy11

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    Stop with the drugs are safer than alcohol nonsense already, it is a non-argument!

    Alcoholic drinks are legal whereas cannabis, heroin et al are illegal. People who take them are deliberately committing a criminal act, and as we know people who commit one criminal act commit others. Those who pander to drug takers are favouring bad people over good.
     
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  5. Brigade77

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    I think you need to leave it there & seek immediate medical help.

    Even by the standards of DiyNot you are obviously & seriously mentally unwell.
     
  6. johnny2007

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    Because I speak to real people???
    Is this the new normal, where we lock ourselves indoors and only deal with others remotely???
    And I am the mentally unwell?!?
    F#ck me upside down!
     
  7. And that says that you might be one of those people who thinks that the way to deal with those who are right when they are wrong, who tell the truth when they do not, who believe in facts when they do not, who can mount intelligent reasoned arguments when they cannot, is to ignore them.

    Of course, I accept that there might be no other way you can deal with people like that if you are not prepared to accept that you are wrong.
     
  8. Lazzy

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    No need to fret, andy has it all worked out. He's probably working on it right now. Maybe there's a couple of chapters in his well thumbed novel that he can turn to? Lets just hope he can't get his hands on any zyklon b :unsure: :)
     
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  9. I dont know anybody who has died from either.

    But Ive known far more people with serious problems stemming from alcohol use than I have heroin, cocaine, cannabis, amphetamines,etc put together.
     
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  11. True.

    Reading anything into anything you write is too much.
     
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  12. JohnD

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    yes, I know of more people than I know, too.

    So what?
     
  13. Not if you want to discuss the relative dangers of different drugs. Of which there are many. And of which alcohol is one.

    Are you saying that alcohol is the least dangerous of all the drugs (with recreational potential) known to man?

    Or are you not saying anything sensible?

    On what basis should drugs laws be based if no account is to be taken of their relative dangers?


    Not everywhere.

    Not everywhere.

    Do you actually know anything about the topic you have decided to participate in?

    If alcohol is legal in country A and illegal in country B, does that mean that alcohol is a different substance in those two countries which justifies the dfference in status?

    If cannabis is illegal in country X and legal in country Y, does that mean that cannabis is a different substance in those two countries which justifies the dfference in status?


    Who is "we"?

    On what basis do they "know" that?

    What evidence do you have to support that assertion? Or is evidence not something which interests you?


    So if you went to Saudi Arabia or Kuwait and drank beer or red wine, how would that make you a bad person? I dont just mean "lawbreaker", I mean bad person with all that that entails. And how would it make you commit other criminal acts there, as we know you would do?
     
  14. andy11

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    ITM this is a classic example of figures being misleading due to lack of context. What does "Alcohol related deaths in 2020 were around 75 per million people" mean? I presume it means that for every million deaths (globally) in 2020, 75 were alcohol related. It could also mean that for every million persons who drank alcohol in 2020 75 died of causes related to drinking alcohol, but it's unlikely to mean that - however that would be a more revealing statistic.

    Crucially, it doesn't say how many people drank alcohol in that same period and didn't die, or died but of conditions not relating to alcohol. Alcoholic drink is consumed, nay, enjoyed, in almost every country by a majority of the adult population. Opiates (illegal, I'm not concerned with legally taken drugs that are illegal without prescription) are taken by a minority, so I'd like to see the other side of the coin to your opiates "caused around 24 deaths per million" figure, i.e. how many people took opiates and didn't die.

    Quoting the negligible number of deaths from cannabis is also misleading. It's well known that cannabis is not lethal even in huge quantities, so in quoting the low number of deaths it is as if you are trying to make cannabis look like a harmless wonder drug and panacea. Whether we should be concerned about the deaths of drug takers is another matter - them having deliberately broken the law and all. The death of the drug taker is not the issue with cannabis - it is what the cannabis user does to others that is the problem - it leads to utterly depraved behaviour and extraordinary violence. Read some of the news reports on this site:

    Ross Grainger – Attacker Smoked Cannabis: suicide and psychopathic violence in the UK and Ireland

    Cannabis is the most widely used illegal drug. I've not known any extreme cases of psychosis such as those mentioned on Ross Grainger's site, but I come across, every day, the mental damage caused by cannabis. It's takers are usually vacant and gormless when high; shifty and restless when not. Encountering someone stoned on cannabis in the street is like being in one of those zombie films. Cannabis may not cause actual death but it certainly causes brain death.
     
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    Another misleading "lack of context" statistical comment.

    If you live in Britain (or any free country) you will have known far more people who drink alcohol than you know who take heroin, cocaine, cannabis, amphetamines,etc put together.

    The relevant statistic, and the one you avoid, would be how many people you know without serious problems stemming from alcohol use in comaprison to those without serious problems stemming from heroin, cocaine, cannabis, amphetamines,etc put together.
     
  16. Or possibly hes trying to point out that cannabis is not lethal even in huge quantities, unlike alcohol.


    Unlike alcohol, of course - utterly depraved behaviour and extraordinary violence are completely unheard of in people who drink alcohol, arent they.


    Unlike alcohol, of course - drunks are as sharp as a tack, arent they. Lucid, invariably demonstrating sensible behaviour...
     
  17. Mmm.

    We cant have people making misleading comments, can we...

    That would never do.
     
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