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EU make offer to reduce 80% of post Brexit checks at NI border

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Notch7, 31 May 2021.

  1. JohnD

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    what nonsense

    ROI is a part of the EU.
     
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    I think ROI leaving the EU would happen before re-unification.
     
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    The paper you are quoting mentions May's red lines. In no way to does that relate to the agreement that was actually signed by both parties and approved by ALL heads of state - there was rather a lot of those involved with this. The EU man is just a civil servant.
     
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    And you think that would stop the EU protecting the single market?
     
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    What nonsense.

    RoI is a part of the Single Market.
     
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    C4 had the secretary involved with this on tonight. The word he used to describe the UK's general responses in this area is entirely correct - disingenuous.

    Why is that? They have been moaning about some aspects of this area for years so are fully aware of all of the complications. Even working within it.

    He also mentioned what the EU is. A group of countries that work within a legal framework. That framework is what the EU actually is.
     
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    Brexit news: EU poised to throw Ireland under bus by triggering no-deal Brexit plans | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

    Irish officials feel as if the EU is preparing to punish them for the UK's decision to leave the bloc after it was reported EU officials are discussing restricting Ireland's access to the bloc's single market. Brussels and the UK have been locking horns over the Brexit Northern Ireland protocol, which Britain is refusing to implement as it claims it jeopardises trade between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.

    As Brussels fails to come to an agreement with Boris Johnson's Government, EU officials told Politico some in the bloc are prepared to tell Ireland to implement its no-deal Brexit contingency plans.

    The plan would see Ireland's access to the internal market restricted so that goods coming into the EU from the UK via Ireland could be checked in the member state rather than at the border with the UK.

    But the plan is causing a lot of anxiety in Ireland.

    “Nobody is willing to say this is going to have consequences for Ireland directly yet, but it is a bit sous-entendu [implied].”
    One EU diplomat told Politico: "That is why they [the Irish] are so worried, because they know they might have to pay the price.

    Some in the bloc are starting to believe that it might be the only solution to the Brexit impasse.

    But such a solution would see Ireland being effectively treated by the EU like a third country on goods.

    Another EU official said: “Goods arriving from Ireland [into the EU] would be checked as if they were coming from a third country.”

    Stephen Kelly, chief executive of Manufacturing NI, a lobby group for Northern Irish manufacturing firms, told Politico that Irish officials are yet to come up with a better solution.

    But he warned: "Checks would destroy pretty much all the [Irish] ministers who had to implement them, and it would finish the government.
     
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    A border between the RoI and the EU would be a perfect solution.
    After its their single market.
     
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    That is complete nonsense.

    RoI is a part of the EU.

    Only a Brexer would suggest such stupidity.
     
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    you must try not to trust anti-EU nonsense circulated by anti-EU propagandists who told you Brexit would be easy and pain free.

    they were lying then and they are lying now.
     
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    It was a contingency plan before, it's a contingency plan now. Don't forget john, we are dealing with a group of countries who's collective parliament is morally, lower than a snakes belly.

    EU diplomats float emergency Brexit plan to restrict Ireland’s single market access – POLITICO

    and don't forget John:

    1. Nothing in this Protocol shall prevent the United Kingdom from ensuring unfettered market access for goods moving from Northern Ireland to other parts of the United Kingdom's internal market.
     
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    It is no more stupid than an internal border within the UK.
    N.I. is no longer a member of the EU, so why should it be subject to EU rules.
     
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    Brexit would be a lot more easier if the EU kept out of N. I.
    You seem to think its OK for N. I. to be used as a pawn in the EUs attempt to get one over on the UK.
     
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    if the Brexers had agreed what they wanted, reached a sensible deal, and signed up to it.

    Instead of just neglecting NI, signing up any old rubbish that Theresa May had said "no Prime Minister could accept" and then refusing to comply with the agreement they'd signed.

    That's Brexers for you.

    You seem to think its OK for NI to be cast adrift in Johnson's attempt to satisfy the crazy brexers.
     
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    'They' dribble with delight and foam at the lips at the merest hint of anything they believe may harm our country. I think they're going to disappointed again. Expect more anger.
     
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