Is my shed replacement notifiable?

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Dare I suggest that it's quite likely that the person(s) who drafted the amendment didn't even realise that the scope of the regulations included communication circuits etc.?
Though when writing an amendment which deletes a section of schedule 4 and said section refers explicitly to such wiring, you'd think the penny would drop.
You clearly have a lost more faith in these people than I do!

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You clearly have a lost more faith in these people than I do!
Not at all! I was rather lamenting that some Whitehall bureaucrat could be so incompetent that even when deleting a section which refers explicitly to communications wiring he might not realize that such wiring was within the scope of the regulations. (Although I'm sure there's some Freudian slip there with your typing of "lost" instead of "lot" when talking about faith!)

For practical purposes, I doubt anyone is now going to start notifying for the installation of a TV distribution system or a new doorbell. But you can just bet that eventually some other little bureaucrat at a local authority will pick up on it and try to insist that such are notified and the fee paid. After all, they're not above trying to insist upon people doing things which aren't even required by the regulations, so I can't see them missing a chance where the regulations now appear to have brought something back within the scope of notification.
 
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For practical purposes, I doubt anyone is now going to start notifying for the installation of a TV distribution system or a new doorbell. But you can just bet that eventually some other little bureaucrat at a local authority will pick up on it and try to insist that such are notified and the fee paid. After all, they're not above trying to insist upon people doing things which aren't even required by the regulations, so I can't see them missing a chance where the regulations now appear to have brought something back within the scope of notification.
Maybe, but I think that there is minimal interest in undertaking (and/or inadequate resources to undertake) any 'policing' of non-notification, even when it relates to work which quite clearly/obviously should have been notified. Although theoretically possible, I'm not at all convinced that there have ever been any prosecutions for non-notification of electrical work, per se.

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Agreed - There seems to have been no interest in pursuing cases of non-notification for the last 10 years and, as you say, I've never seen any prosecutions for not notifying per se, only where work was so sub-standard as to be dangerous (and then only when something nasty actually happened because of that dangerous work).

I was thinking more along the lines of telling anyone who inquires that notification is needed, or of "suggesting" it via websites, informational leaflets and so on, in the same way as under the previous rules some councils were telling people that certain jobs were notifiable even when clearly exempt (or telling people to apply for planning permission even when the proposed work was quite clearly within permitted development rules etc.).
 
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Agreed - There seems to have been no interest in pursuing cases of non-notification for the last 10 years and, as you say, I've never seen any prosecutions for not notifying per se, only where work was so sub-standard as to be dangerous (and then only when something nasty actually happened because of that dangerous work).
Indeed - and those (very rare) prosecutions for dangerous work would happen whether the work in question were notifiable or not. Indeed, so little remains notifiable that I would imagine that, from now on, a high proportion of those (few) prosecutions will probably relate to non-notifiable work.

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Wow, I didn't realise my post would create such debate.

My old shed did have a CU in it, fed from the house CU. I removed th CU, and the shed has now been removed. The reason for my initial query is that if I put the previous CU back into the new shed with the existing cables, I have not replaced this CU, but rather replaced the building it is located in.
 
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My old shed did have a CU in it, fed from the house CU. I removed th CU, and the shed has now been removed. The reason for my initial query is that if I put the previous CU back into the new shed with the existing cables, I have not replaced this CU, but rather replaced the building it is located in.
Hmmm! I suspect that many would say that if you put anything into a new/different building, that counts as 'new' (to the building), even if it is 'used' equipment. One certainly couldn't take a CU from one house and install it in another and claim that such an activity was not notifiable, just because the same CU had once been installed somewhere else!

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The reason for my initial query is that if I put the previous CU back into the new shed with the existing cables, I have not replaced this CU, but rather replaced the building it is located in.
What does your dictionary give as the definition of "replace"?

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What does your dictionary give as the definition of "replace"?

verb


1.

take the place of.


"Ian's smile was replaced by a frown"



2.

put (something) back in a previous place or position.


"he drained his glass and replaced it on the bar"

"Adam replaced the receiver thoughtfully"
 
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So it was in a shed.

You then removed it.

And then replaced it in a shed.

If you don't want to notify, then don't notify, but please don't insult our intelligence by expecting us to believe that you don't have to.

But given that you'll need an electrician to test the installation, why not use a reistered one?
 

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