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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by JP_, 13 Jul 2021.

  1. ellal

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    A cocktail of regular jabs can have a detrimental effect, and 'disease management' also has consequences...

    Because as regards the flu, according to the Chief Scientific Adviser to the Government.

    "Up to 60,000 people in England could die from flu this winter because so few people have immunity due to lockdowns, warns report commissioned by Patrick Vallance"

    "It is feared the nation will suffer one of the worst influenza outbreaks in decades"

    It matters not what gets you, as life is a terminal illness!

    Best to enjoy whatever you can whenever, although sadly the choices are very restricted nowadays.
     
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  3. JohnD

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    Justify that claim.
     
  4. bernardgreen

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    From JHU CSSE COVID-19 Data ยท Last updated: 1 day ago

    Location----- Cases------- Recovered--------- Deaths
    England------- 4.55M -----------?-------------------113K
     
  5. Scarlet Pimpernel

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    I don't think it's quite the same.
    The flu jabs are issued on a known or suspected variant being 'in transmission'.
    As I understand it, the Covid booster will be the same as the original jabs.
    I understand that work is continuing on identifying the different variants, and preparing jabs to combat them. But as I understand it, no new 'jabs' are yet designed to combat any new or potential variants.
     
  6. JP_

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    I think new flu variants arrive and new vaccines area created. My pharmacist was telling me about some of the new flu types that were extremely deadly and caused people to sneeze blood, then die.

    As for

    This is a good reminder of the importance of vaccinating against all deadly respiratory viruses.
     
  7. ellal

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    I guess you didn't see the bit saying...

    "because so few people have immunity due to lockdowns"

    Now given that you say all 'deadly respiratory viruses' should be vaccinated against, could explain why there were no lockdowns for previous flu/influenza outbreaks?

    And could you tell us if there are any particular jabs available for an as yet unknown version of the flu coming up?
     
  8. JP_

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    Yes, already been covered in detail. Coronavirus is not the flu. They are different, and need to be treated differently.
    But if you think back to the plague / black death, there were strict lockdowns.to stop the spread.
    Also, we have had flu vaccines since the 1940s, so don't need lockdowns as we have it under control.

    Jabs for unknown versions? Um, no, none.
     
  9. denso13

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    Not least that coronavirus was new, no one on the planet had immunity.
     
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  11. ellal

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    Tens of thousands dying each (normal) year is having it under control?

    And the latest data...

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    "The number of people dying with flu and pneumonia on their death certificate in England and Wales is now 10 times higher than those with Covid, figures show."
     
  12. denso13

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    So 'with it' not 'of it'. Can you tell us how many died 'of' flu and 'of' pneumonia.
     
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  14. ellal

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    Can you tell us how many have died of the 'virus' as opposed to with it?

    Oh that's right you can't because even the ONS won't differentiate...

    But do keep digging that hole of yours, as it's rather amusing (y)
     
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    I'll try to 'explain'. You have consistently criticised how the Covid figures/deaths are recorded. You then rely on the 'latest data' showing the flu and pneumonia numbers which are 'calculated' in exactly the same way as the Covid ones. 'Hypocrite.'



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  16. JP_

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    Yes.

    Better than hundreds of thousands.
     
  17. JP_

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    I really don't see the point of sharing data like this. It is meaningless. Well, it is FANTASTIC to see that we have, up to May, reduced covid deaths.
    But as mentioned, these are 2 different diseases. We predicted a year ago that flu deaths would rise because people were not getting their flu vaccinations. This is not shocking news.

    What is shocking news, is ending lockdown at a time when cases are rising again. The rest of the world think we're complete stupid.

    More up to date data:

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