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joe-90";p="847478 said:
Perhaps we should start a campaign...turn the isle of white into a prison island fill it with the low life that we pay for in our taxes along with all the immigrants. :evil:


what have immigrants got to do with it? We are all EU citizens now. Borders no longer count. We are in a whole new game - and you'd better get used to it.

Coming for you Joey Boy...Soon..
 
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We don't need revenge in society. That makes us no better than the criminal. We need justice and rehabilitation.

It said on the news that many of the 'items' were props from Bergerac.

I'm sure they'll all come out of the woodwork seeking their 'compo' for a good story.

Coming to take you home joey...........soon.
 
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statistics can be interpreted in any way you like , but the fact is a lot more people are being murdered now than was the case before abolition.
The real question should be does some who has murdered an innocent child or adult deserve to live.
 
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statistics can be interpreted in any way you like
Only 96% of them can.

but the fact is a lot more people are being murdered now than was the case before abolition.
And a lot more people are killed on the roads. And a lot more people go on holiday abroad. And a lot more people have colour TVs.

Are all of these things down to the abolition of the death penalty?

The real question should be does some who has murdered an innocent child or adult deserve to live.
You use the word "real" where I would just say "different". As far as the death-penalty-for-murder debate goes, it's been done so many times before.
 
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Let's hypothesise then.

One of your relatives, who you had gone to see that day, was found dead sometime later. You were the last person seen leaving the building. You are (wrongly as it happens) the main suspect. You are wrongly convicted. You receive the death sentence.

Do you still favour the death penalty? (a simple yes or no).
 
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Let's hypothesise then.

One of your relatives, who you had gone to see that day, was found dead sometime later. You were the last person seen leaving the building. You are (wrongly as it happens) the main suspect. You are wrongly convicted. You receive the death sentence.

Do you still favour the death penalty? (a simple yes or no).
You typically try to mislead people by saying it's a simple yes or no answer when it isnt and you know it, it's far more complicated than that if it goes to court, you should be in the tory party along with all the other twisters of the fact for being so misleading instead of saying it how it is.
 
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Let's hypothesise then.

One of your relatives, who you had gone to see that day, was found dead sometime later. You were the last person seen leaving the building. You are (wrongly as it happens) the main suspect. You are wrongly convicted. You receive the death sentence.

Do you still favour the death penalty? (a simple yes or no).
Wrongful conviction is a different issue, I wouldn't favour the death penalty in all cases,but some murderers are so evil they don't deserve to live, where there is an element of doubt as in the barry george case i wouldn't favour the death penalty, but if you take the case of ian huntley then yes i would favour it.
The object of capital punishment was to deter and punish, if it is proven that capital punishment reduces the murder rate then why not have it, hundreds of lives could be saved every year.
As for wrongful convictions, what is needed is an honest debate on this issue, the truth is no system is foolproof yes there are going to be wrongful convictions to-day and in the future, if you go into hospital there is a chance a mistake could be made during an operation and you could lose your life but we don't close down hospitals because we know that sooner or later mistakes will happen, likewise with driving we don't ban cars because mistakes are made and people crash. The object of capital punishment should be to reduce the number of homicides it isn't about being cruel, the risk of wrongful conviction should be balanced against the number of lives saved by the deterrant effect of capital punishment.
 
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It's an act of murder for the revenge of society - and is primitive. Let's move on from that and at least attempt to understand why people act the way they do.
 
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It's an act of murder for the revenge of society - and is primitive. Let's move on from that and at least attempt to understand why people act the way they do.
Well try and understand why the majority of people polled would like to see capital punishment reintroduced,hanging was good enough for Fred West and Harold Shipman why not for the rest?
 
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Where are the poll results? Can you supply a link?
 
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Let's hypothesise then.

One of your relatives, who you had gone to see that day, was found dead sometime later. You were the last person seen leaving the building. You are (wrongly as it happens) the main suspect. You are wrongly convicted. You receive the death sentence.

Do you still favour the death penalty? (a simple yes or no).

Ok then - the answer to this question - No.

Do I favour the death penalty generally? - yup.
 
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