logical step for Labour is to reverse Brexit

[Odds]

was this research done at a similar time?

“You do not need to have a PhD in economics to know that erecting unnecessary trade barriers with your biggest trading partner will hurt growth and raise the cost of living,”

It was the Brexiteers who lobbied to take the UK out of the Customs Union, not the left.

 

[Highway Man]

the earn more

WRONG

 

[motorbiking]

“You do not need to have a PhD in economics to know that erecting unnecessary trade barriers with your biggest trading partner will hurt growth and raise the cost of living,”

No answer then?

It was the Brexiteers who lobbied to take the UK out of the Customs Union, not the left.

Nope - Brexit was not a left or right campaign. Plenty of lefties campaigned for Brexit.

 

[Odds]

No answer then?

Nope - Brexit was not a left or right campaign. Plenty of lefties campaigned for Brexit.

Like i said: It was the Brexiteers who lobbied to take the UK out of the Customs Union, not the left.

 

[motorbiking]

Like i said: It was the Brexiteers who lobbied to take the UK out of the Customs Union, not the left.

Brexiteers - were political left and right. You cannot deny it, even though you want to.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

So people with high value skills will need to earn less than they are worth, so that people with low value skills can earn more than they are worth.

What conflation! Who said that. Apart from you.

Yet you are against people on low pay being given benefits which are paid for by those who pay the highest taxes.

They shouldn't need benefits. It's what encourages people not to work

So it boils down to you thinking that if those who earn more than you pay more, so that those who earn less do not need “subsidies”, which you think you pay towards.

It's what all OUR taxes pay for, not just yours.

Politics of envy.

Yours is the politics of greed. Mine is just letting people live. I've never even suggested low paid people should be able to live the life of a top earner. Just heat eat live.

You should go and work out what is best for the long term economy. Your attitude is what will bring unions back to the fore !

 

[Notch7]

Brexiteers - were political left and right. You cannot deny it, even though you want to.

Brexit was a Tory project -Cameron only did the referendum as he wanted to kill the ERG nutters

65% of Labour voted to remain
61% of Tory voted to leave

it was mostly Tory home owning middle aged and retired gammons (that non racist term that describes angry racist rw fickos -now known as Reform voters)

 

[Notch7]

Nope - Brexit was not a left or right campaign. Plenty of lefties campaigned for Brexit.

it was mostly RW

but the division was intelligence based

some unintelligent labor voters were conned too

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

If you can't understand a principal, it really isn't my problem.

Can't understand a head-teacher?

Oh, you mean principle.

Love it when people who can't spell try to sound clever with big words. You'll be saying pacifically next. Or setting a president.

 

[Mottie]

If Covid was this killer disease it was made out to be, why are new houses being built on every spare piece of land available in Lancashire? Surely there should be thousands of empty properties!

Only if the whole household was wiped out by the disease. Have you ever had a friend or family member die? Was their family that lived in the same house as them made homeless because of their death?

 

[noseall]

Nope - Brexit was not a left or right campaign. Plenty of lefties campaigned for Brexit.

Utter nonsense.

Brexit was as right wing as you can get. The fact that others supported it is irrelevant. It was a right wing, anti-EU propaganda campaign funded by and promoted by the right wing. All the lies came from right wing propaganda and right wing news and media outlets and right wing politicians.

Not a right wing campaign, my arse.

 

[motorbiking]

What conflation! Who said that. Apart from you.

it was clear from your statement

They shouldn't need benefits. It's what encourages people not to work

nonsense - getting benefits while working encourages people to work. Getting more, than if they didn't work

It's what all OUR taxes pay for, not just yours.

yours barely cover your cost to the state and given you are self employed, I suspect your income tax probably doesn't quite match that either.

Yours is the politics of greed. Mine is just letting people live. I've never even suggested low paid people should be able to live the life of a top earner. Just heat eat live.

Nope you have a confused and over simplistic view of economics.

You should go and work out what is best for the long term economy. Your attitude is what will bring unions back to the fore !

I've said many times - Give people the help they need and motivation to increase the value of their skills so that employers want to pay them more.

 

[motorbiking]

Utter nonsense.

Brexit was as right wing as you can get. The fact that others supported it is irrelevant. It was a right wing, anti-EU propaganda campaign funded by and promoted by the right wing. All the lies came from right wing propaganda and right wing news and media outlets and right wing politicians.

Not a right wing campaign, my arse.

It was a right wing campaign that lefties supported comedy gold from Nosenout.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

it was clear from your statement

Rubbish. Pure conflation on your part

nonsense - getting benefits while working encourages people to work. Getting more, than if they didn't work

Think a bit harder. If people can get the same by not working, what will some choose?

yours barely cover your cost to the state and given you are self employed, I suspect your income tax probably doesn't quite match that either.

Pay more for me then. You're the 1 supporting benefit payments.

Nope you have a confused and over simplistic view of economics.

No. I have seen a few years, and just look back at recent history

I've said many times - Give people the help they need and motivation to increase the value of their skills so that employers want to pay them more.

That helps 1 person. It doesn't help overall. The low paid job will still be there. Not sure why you can't understand that.

Pure politics of greed

 

[motorbiking]

Rubbish. Pure conflation on your part

It was clear - Wealthy people (i.e. those with more than carman) need to earn less so that those at the bottom can earn more (so that I carman can earn more, and subsidise lower paid people less).

Think a bit harder. If people can get the same by not working, what will some choose?

entirely invented by you.

Pay more for me then. You're the 1 supporting benefit payments.

you are the only one who is in control of how much you earn. if the market wont pay more for your skills, you are the only one capable of changing that.

No. I have seen a few years, and just look back at recent history

its fairly obvious from your posts that you lack the minerals

That helps 1 person. It doesn't help overall. The low paid job will still be there. Not sure why you can't understand that.

No it helps the country. It helps create a workforce with valuable skills that mean more people can earn more money and contribute to taxes.