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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by diy_fun_uk, 16 Sep 2021.

  1. diy_fun_uk

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    What is your view on this and similar protests?

    I'm slightly conflicted. On the one hand, I will always defend our right to protest and I think it's an important one, regardless of what is/isn't ultimately achieved.

    However, I don't support this specific type of protest. Yes, I get that's what the protestors want to achieve (major disruption) however I side more with those caught up in the delays and tailbacks. Imagine someone on their way to an important job interview, a job they really need/want for whatever reason. They're delayed and miss their interview and ultimately aren't considered for the job.

    100's of other examples we can all think of.

    What are your thoughts?
     
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    I support the protestors aims but deplore their methods when those methods cause disruption to other people.

    Some of the people caught up in the disruption probably have the same aims but use less aggressive means to try and influence policy makers.
     
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    Not OK. There are protests and there are protests.

    Whatever your opinion is, it is unacceptable to inflict unknowable and unrestrained grief on others to try to persuade anyone.

    Police action needs to be immediate and as forceful as necessary, leading to exemplary punishments. Heavy fines, ASBO tags to constrain their liberty, & suspended sentences. Prison on top for those who organise the crime.
     
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    Not sure about the unknowable and unrestrained grief.
     
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    Could cause a traffic incident and kill someone, stop someone on their way to a close relative's funeral ..... heart attack....

    Do they care? No, too busy being self-important.
     
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    I agree, they have the right message (insulation rules!) but blocking traffic on any roads is dumb. If there's an emergency and access is blocked, people might die as a result.
    By all means protest in Trafalgar Square, outside parliament etc, but don't block motorways!
     
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    I thought they left space for emergency vehicles. That's normally how it's done and the photos I saw I think had the hard shoulder clear.

    More of this sort of thing. The only XR protest I've disagreed with was the idiot who blocked the DLR in Canary wharf because he thought the finance industry was part of the problem. He was a tit.
     
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    Maybe they did, the report I read suggested that they blocked all traffic. But maybe the reporter doesn't believe in global warming.
     
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    They're a bunch of brain dead morons who actually caused more pollution by their pathetic stunts.

    God only knows why the Police didn't forcibly remove them as soon as they arrived!
     
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    ...It would be great if such protests weren't needed, if governments listened to scientists and behaved in a thoughtful rational way. It really is a pain in the a***e to get caught in such protests.
    The context is, of course, that the effects of not doing what the protesters are asking ie; not immediately moving to effectively insulate homes well and quickly will cause (is already causing in many places) massive massive disruption that will make being stuck on the motorway look like a walk in the park.
     
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    Well, they certainly got the nation talking about insulation, so that is good news for builders and insulation suppliers!

    But what we don't want is dodgy government backed schemes run by old school pals that are charging the tax payer 10 times more than it costs a local builder to install some insulation and make good to the same level. But that will likely be the outcome - the government will declare they listened and acted, and everybody will think they did a great job, and they will be laughing all the way to the bank, again.
     
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    We need some fake nooz - protesters being mown down in a hail of bullets, and channel-crossing migrant boats being sunk, by some extreme group.
    Then you get loads of publicity without the damage.


    HMG would deny it was happening, but nobody would believe them...
     
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    Extinction Rebellion completely change their minds after being shouted at by van driver | The Daily Mash

    Extinction Rebellion completely change their minds after being shouted at by van driver
    20th September 2021

    EXTINCTION Rebellion has issued a formal apology and disbanded after having some sense shouted into them by an angry van driver.

    XR offshoot Insulate Britain realised what pricks they had been after the 20-minute tirade from Will McKay at junction 18 near Rickmansworth and have promised not to impede climate change in any way.

    McKay said: “What did I say? I told them they were just causing more pollution with this queue of cars which I bet they’d not thought of, and they’d made everyone hate them and more likely to do climate change out of spite.

    “I added that they were a bunch of f**king pricks. And I think that really hit home.”

    Protestor Jules Cook said: “I’d never heard such refreshing common sense, coming as I do from the liberal elite and attending a woke echo chamber university.

    “Extinction Rebellion is over. We all plan to get honest jobs doing worthwhile things such as plastering, like our new hero Mr McKay.”

    Transport secretary Grant Shapps said: “Good. You should hate these people making you late for work. But not trains, which you should pay handsomely for making you late for work.”
     
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    The police are no longer what they used to be, they are now just a political tool of our left-wing government. If the government agrees with a protest's cause (i.e. climate change) it instructs the police to leave the protesters alone. If it's an anti-government demonstration such as anti-immigration or anti-vaccine the govt sends the police in with the instruction to stop the protest quickly and crack some heads whilst they're at it.
     
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