New Covid Variant - B.1.1.529

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  1. jeds

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    But the purpose of masks, in either sense, adds up to the same thing; to reduce the spread of covid overall. But case rates in England over the last weeks has been more than 20% better than Scotland and NI. With all the mask free gathering in nightclubs, pubs, restaurants, sports events, etc. that has gone on in England wouldn't you think, if masks were such an important factor, that those stats would be at least closer, if not reversed?
     
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  3. Notch7

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  4. ellal

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    Those figures are b*llox

    And why do rabid jabbers always use the term 'anti vaxxers' as if those who wish to wait and see reject all vaccines?

    One could be forgiven for thinking that those who voted for brexit couldn't likewise actually change their mind :rolleyes:

    Roll up, roll up...

    "The head of drugmaker Moderna said he believes the Omicron variant is "highly infectious" and it is "highly possible" the effectiveness of vaccines is decreasing - adding that boosters may need a "double" dose to provide the best protection."

    Multiple jabs vs human immune system?

    Kerching!
     
  5. denso13

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    Troll.
     
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  6. JohnD

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    It's a funny thing that antivaxxers like to deny that they are antivaxxers.

    "I agree that vaccines save the lives of millions" they say

    "I agree that HPV immunisation cuts cancer in women"

    "I agree that Measles can kill, or cause blindness, and that vaccination has almost wiped it out"

    "I agree that Smallpox was a mass killer, and was eradicated by mass vaccination"

    "I agree that Polio terrified parents in my lifetime, and is now within reach of eradication thanks to vaccination"

    "I agree that vaccination saves millions and is a boon to mankind"

    "I admit that the MMR scare was a hoax made up by a crook for his own benefit and publicised by dishonest media to sell newspapers"

    "But, just at the time that there is a potentially fatal and highly infectious disease sweeping the world and filling graveyards everywhere, I read some made-up story on the interweb written by a troll plumber, and I have decided to campaign against vaccination"

    What were the odds, eh?
     
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  7. JohnD

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    not exactly a well-reasoned argument, is it?

    Let's see ellal the antivaxxer provides his "calculation" of the figures and try to convince us he "knows" better.
     
  8. ellal

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    CC it appears are indeed populated by dumb plumbers and 'anti vaxxer' flag waving stupidity...

    And as usual they often resort to the 'troll' strategy when they have nothing to add and their stupidity is put on display...

    Others outside of the cabal of course have the ability to think for themselves! :)
     
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    more than 48 million people in the UK vaccinated so far.

    I wonder what ellal the antivaxxer thinks he is "waiting" for?

    A bigger trial?
     
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  11. Notch7

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    no they arent.
     
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    7 billion doses have been administered so far -how long do you want to wait?
     
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    you constantly use misleading claims, dishonest arguments, conflations and any other logical fallacy in your feeble attempts to prove covid vaccines are wrong

    that makes you a rabid anti vaxxer
     
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  14. Notch7

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    you put virus in inverted commas, but wont say why

    that makes you a rabid covid denier
     
  15. JP_

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    That's a polite way of saying it!
     
  16. Harry Bloomfield

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    Yeh, but the plumber is an expert plumber and knows more about the risks of vaccination, that the real experts. He knows what he knows, because he read about on social media.
     
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    Some UK stats, as this is more relevant to us than US stats.

    According to https://www.bhf.org.uk/informations...rus-and-your-health/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine (Updated 29 October 2021)

    Blot clots caused by the vaccine have killed about 1 in 345,000 people.

    In the UK, 145,000 people have died of Covid, which is 1 in 463 people.

    So, covid is about 745 times deadlier than the vaccine.

    If you are bored of life and really scared of needles, then don't get the vaccine. For everybody else, get jabbed, several times, and live a longer and healthier life.
     
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