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PART P, ive got an interesting one.

Discussion in 'Electrics UK' started by UKMICKY, 8 Jan 2011.

  1. sparkiedave

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    Are you sure it's not a termination of a cooker extractor or similar, I can't think of any reason to have any part of the installation go out into a "box" like this, any chance of a photo?
     
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    Any progress on this?
     
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    Yes. I've been thinking quite a bit about the enclosure containing a pinhole camera and the sort of images it might capture!
     
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    Presumably, rather than chase a new cable into the wall for a cooker or something, they've brought it up the outside of the house.

    Does the neighbour also have an issue with the house's gables projecting into his garden's airspace as well :)

    I'd be interested to hear the outcome of this - sounds like bad communication between neighbours to me but I'm interested in the legal point - what if it was just a phone or satellite cable?
     
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    Sorry i thought i had had all the replies i was going to get.


    I Saw a picture and it was an armoured cable leading across the wall into a 3 inch square black cover, that looks like it is some form of junction box.

    The owner of the cable i believe still refuses to remove it.
     
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    I think TBH we all would take exception to a neighbour coming on to our land and installing a power cable and box in our airspace .

    It also makes things harder should someone wish to place an extension on the boundary if there is something in the way but that can be overcome under the party wall act.

    Legally wise it is trespassing into the OP airspace and the OP is in their right to demand its removal or sue for damages for the trespass.

    Reality wise it might be considered as de minimis and any court action to have it removed could cost the OP more money and stress than its worth with their being no guarantees of gaining an order for full costs .

    Lots of people would sort of be careless around something protruding into their garden without permission and unfortunately damage the protrusion making the owner think again about its placement. However and unfortunately with electricity you cant just go banging things around.
     
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    Is that the edited and cleaned up version of animal farm. :D
     
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    One way to get rid of it would be to connect a few sockets to it, i'm sure the neighbour would get it shifted then.
     
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    And so it begins -

    Person A does something unreasonable, possibly unlawful.

    Person A refuses to behave reasonably to resolve the issue.

    Person B can do nothing except put up with it, try legal action which may cost money and will exacerbate what is clearly already a poor relationship with Person A, or take direct action which would also be unlawful and would worsen the relationship even more.
     
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    That would be theft.
     
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    Only if you take some electrons from the neighbours mains wiring and then keep them for yourself.

    Many years ago a chap was charged with stealing electricity from the GPO when he plugged something into the lamp holder in a phone box. In a pre court hearing he proved with the aid of an expert witness that all electrons had returned before he unplugged. So they couldn't charge him with theft. I can't recall if it was him or another person but someone doing the same thing was charged with "mis use of electricity" and found guilty.
     
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    You could argue that all connection boxes need to be accessible and this one clearly isn't without the consent of the neighbour so therefore does not comply with part 'P'. :p
     
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    :LOL: electric patio heaters all over the garden = offending box/cable shifted pronto

    Its an interesting suggestion. If there is a case of trespass, but then the owner of the property who is the victim of the trespass makes use of it, is it theft?

    Back to the law forums.....

    Or possibly, wait until its dark, then hopefully some local asbo-hoodie might happen to trespass onto the OPs property, remove the lid of the box and expose live conductors.

    Upon realising this, the OP then tells the owner of the box that it is unsafe and demands it is repaired quickly. Op charges a toll of £(insert silly number here) for entrance to property to repair box. Entrance toll would be waived if the box were to be removed. See what happens?
     
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    Actually, because of the "party wall etc. act" consent is often not required for access. However notice must be given. In an emergency there is no minimum notice period.
     
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