Phase and neutral (France)

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Well, yes, obviously you need both L and N to make a circuit.
N was included in #20.
But early in the thread it was suggested that N had to be taken round the switches circuit .
Winston suggested a reason, for France (neons).
I queried it for the UK.
You asked where N was.
I showed you, in a schematic diagram that IS representative of the actual locations of the conductors.

"It doesn't have to come back if the light is at the far end." But in the circuit I have been asking about, the light is not at the far end.
So the Neutral doesn't have to go all over the place.

Thank you for your ... help.
 
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I assume you are not in France as T & E is not used there.
What do you mean? What do they use instead?
The T&E supplied to me in France by a French supplier to be installed in France was most certainly twin and earth. Exactly the same thing happened in Germany and Spain.
 
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What do you mean? What do they use instead?
The T&E supplied to me in France by a French supplier to be installed in France was most certainly twin and earth. Exactly the same thing happened in Germany and Spain.
They use singles in gaine (conduit).

I don't know about Germany and Spain.
 
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They use singles in gaine (conduit).

I don't know about Germany and Spain.
Yep

But the work I did in La Forestel in a 12 bedroom git was all round T&E packed out with cotton adding to existing similar T&E. When we ran out it was a 5 mile trip to the shop for more.

All the armour to outbuildings, swimming pool, outside lights etc was all red, blue, yellow which I assumed was UK spec but i don't actually know that.
 
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UK twin and earth isn't used but the French use 3 core cable as well as singles. Earth's double insulated but it's 3 core cable. Singles are more common inside but cables are used.
And there's no requirement in the Normes to take a neutral to a light switch.
 
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All the armour to outbuildings, swimming pool, outside lights etc was all red, blue, yellow which I assumed was UK spec but i don't actually know that.
That's designed for 3 phase.
 
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Yep

But the work I did in La Forestel in a 12 bedroom git was all round T&E packed out with cotton adding to existing similar T&E. When we ran out it was a 5 mile trip to the shop for more.
That is not twin and earth which as I said is not used in France. It is three core cable.
 
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That is not twin and earth which as I said is not used in France. It is three core cable.
There is a three core cable, with Brown, Blue and Green/yellow, in a mouse proof format.
It's round, not like UK T&E flat.
 
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That is not twin and earth which as I said is not used in France. It is three core cable.
No it definitely had a bare earth and the 'builders' were surprised when we added green/yellow sleeving as the existing was was left bare.

I had some left over and I'm sure used it back home somewhere.
 
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Only countries following UK wiring practices and Norway use T&E. All other European countries that I‘m aware of use 3-core with full-sized CPC. Some countries (Ireland, Poland) have flat cables, most use round. I‘m fairly sure bare reduced-site CPCs don‘t conform to NF.
 
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