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Plumber day rate

Discussion in 'Plumbing and Central Heating' started by speccy, 17 Jun 2021.

  1. speccy

    speccy

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    Ok contentious to some, sensitive to others.

    Cards on the table what's the average day rate for a plumber?

    I had a quote to install a new header tank 4 hours labour @ 50 an hour, in my working day of 8hours that's 400 a day for a plumber. Wow am i in the wrong profession maybe i need to give up saving lives and switch?
    Or at four hours is that a 'well this is the min i charge for a day' style quote.

    For standard plumbing work ie no gas or thermal calcs etc required straight forward gas soldering a few joints and compression fittings is 50/hour the going rate? I would pay that for the day i guess.. long as that was my hours not slope off at 3.
     
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    Not a plumber. Probably about normal. The plumber cannot be sure he'll finish the job in the 4 hours, but will have to keep to the quote. Plus time to buy supplies, and if there's an unforeseen issue, might need to come back.

    Plumber quoted me £400 for a job recently, which was labour and time. I asked if it would be cheaper to have him in at a day rate and do another small job, and he told me his day rate was almost £400, so no. He ended up doing the other little job for free (disconnect 2 shower pipes in loft and put end caps on) after I paid first instalment promptly.
     
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    £50 an hour is pretty standard, easy life until to take this and more into consideration

    van insurance and maintenance
    Public liability
    Pension
    Wages
    Mortgage
    Bills
    No paid holidays
    Tools

    Then the time it takes to
    Do the jobs, survey, quote, phones calls
     
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    Yes but you get four weeks paid holiday or more a year, probably full sickness pay, cheap meals when on duty and so on. What may start off sounding like good money is often not when everything is taken into account.
     
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    Cant include mortage nor bills if they are general bills but can include accountacy costs, replacing van and lost/damaged/worn out tools, higher than average insurance for van and other costs not considered by Joe Average in the street.
     
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    i am self employed also pay pub liability and other insurances and squirrel about (x percent for tax after the rest goes through corp tax)

    I pay my accountant 500 for end of year returns, VAT returns no brainer.

    400/day isn't bad if you keep yourself busy believe me for plumbing in header tanks which i could do myself. I don't charge much more and i literally design and architect multi milllion pound systems, thats after 35 years of training and detailed (re)certifications. I think im undercharging for what i do.

    Edit my local sparky is now depressed as he doesn't charge that being a fully qualified NICEIC spark.
     
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    you sort of can, because you need to earn money to pay for them, is what I’m getting at
     
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    How can you be self employed and pay corporation tax. Surely you’re an employee of the company that you pay corp tax for?
     
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    Surely they come out of 'wages'?
     
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    Technically... yes Mottie :)
     
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    If you have Ltd after company name you pay CT
     
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    As I do. I am an employee of my own company. @speccy Are you saying you have a limited company but you are not an employee of it or perhaps you are just confusing self employment terminology with the personal income tax you pay on dividends over the £2k limit and perhaps any rent the company pays to you for use of premises etc?
     
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    So not technically self employed then?
     
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    If guess you ask most sole traders who are incorporated I suspect they would regard themselves as self employed?
     
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    Maybe, but they’d be wrong. :whistle:
    Oh, and not sole trader either. Sole trader is responsible for his losses. Limited liability isn’t. Clue is in the name. :whistle:
     
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