Are full prisons really an excuse for judges to allow leaner sentances/early release for our ever growing band of serious criminals?
I can't think of a better excuse.ricicle said:Are full prisons really an excuse for judges to allow leaner sentances/early release for our ever growing band of serious criminals?
Eh?!gcol said:The worst criminals - the lifers should be gassed.
Softus said:Eh?!gcol said:The worst criminals - the lifers should be gassed.
Would you be prepared to do the gassing, gcol?
Err yeah. Why not? With my hand on my heart, I could do that without a second thought. If you knew me you'd know I mean it. I'm not proud of this sort of thing, but to be honest, I see very little difference between animals and humans at times. Some people don't deserve to live - if we have this opinion, we must be able to be the one to do the exterminating - I have no issue with this at all Softus.Softus said:Eh?!gcol said:The worst criminals - the lifers should be gassed.
Would you be prepared to do the gassing, gcol?
Did I miss something?ninebob said:Please, please, not this one again.....
ninebob said:Please, please, not this one again.....
What I meant is, that I don't think it's a clever or smart opinion, just how I feel.Softus said:I don't understand how you can have an opinion that you're not proud of. Surely you'd seek to either (a) justify it to yourself, or (b) stop holding it.
Who's talking about killing murderers? I'm talking about extinguishing the lives of people that commit attempted murder, I'm not bothered whether they actually manage it or not - attempted murder warrants execution in my opinion. Has any of your family been subjected to attempted murder Softus?Softus said:That aside, and without any wish to restart "this one again", it doesn't make sense to me to kill someone whose own crime was to kill someone. The logical progression of that argument is that the executioner should himself be killed.
Not legalised as such so that the public have free reign, that's not what I mean. The death penalty needs re-introducing.Softus said:Or is it your argument that the murder of murderers should be legalised?
There will always be the odd case that goes wrong, sh*t happens and I accept that. I accept that there would be big compensation claims every now and then, but in my opinion (and that's all I can offer) wiping out the scum of the Earth is a bigger benefit.Softus said:If so, what's your plan for dealing with miscarriages of justice that are discovered too late, i.e. after an innocent person was convicted of murder and then murdered?
But you said this:gcol said:What I meant is, that I don't think it's a clever or smart opinion, just how I feel.
So are you now saying that you only wish you could, not that you actually would?With my hand on my heart, I could do that without a second thought. If you knew me you'd know I mean it.
You are - you wrote this:Softus said:Who's talking about killing murderers?
Or did you mean that you would gas lifers except murderers?The worst criminals - the lifers should be gassed.
Er, you've lost me. I now can't work out who you want to kill and who you want to preserve.I'm talking about extinguishing the lives of people that commit attempted murder, I'm not bothered whether they actually manage it or not - attempted murder warrants execution in my opinion.
Not that I'm aware of, but what's that got to do with a discussion of whether or not the state should legislate to kill people?Has any of your family been subjected to attempted murder Softus?
The death penalty is currently illegal, so introducing it would mean legalising the murder of murderers, or the killing of killers, whichever way you want to express it. It would also mean the murder of wrongly convicted non-murderers, or the killing of wrongly convicted non-killers.Not legalised as such so that the public have free reign, that's not what I mean. The death penalty needs re-introducing.Softus said:Or is it your argument that the murder of murderers should be legalised?
So let me see if I've got this right...There will always be the odd case that goes wrong, sh*t happens and I accept that. I accept that there would be big compensation claims every now and then, but in my opinion (and that's all I can offer) wiping out the scum of the Earth is a bigger benefit.Softus said:If so, what's your plan for dealing with miscarriages of justice that are discovered too late, i.e. after an innocent person was convicted of murder and then murdered?