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UK Australia Trade Deal

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SirGalahad, 16 Jun 2021.

  1. sxturbo

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    I am in agreement with you.

    However personally nothing has affected me as yet
     
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    So not 'pretty much the same as it was' then...

    I wonder when brexiteers will finally admit it was a terrible mistake?
     
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    Many others have been deeply affected...

    When something personal happens to you (and it already has btw) that you can visualise/understand then it will hit you hard!
     
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    Same here, but do you know anyone in meat processing industry - as the article below is starting to ring true.

    https://www.ft.com/content/e0663ada-b8e8-40bf-aa85-da518712cfa8

    Labour shortages are causing the UK meat industry to cut production and warn that it will soon be unable to meet orders unless the government relaxes post-Brexit immigration rules. The British Poultry Council (BPC) said throughput in the industry — which usually processes some 20m birds each week — had fallen by 10 per cent since Easter, because of the shortages of workers across farming and processing.

    I have seen the prices at my local butcher rise.
     
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    We benefited enormously from EU labour - the idea they were here taking our jobs was never true. They worked in the jobs we did not want to.

    Eventually this will lead to higher prices, Our latest inflation figures just hit 2.1%.
     
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    Not only did we benefit from EU labour we benefited from cultural exchange...

    The UK is now an isolationistic country that is disintegrating before our eyes...

    Trouble is the brexiteers are enjoying it!
     
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    Yeah but this trade deal mean loads of meat coming from Australia, therefor the British meat industry should decline, meaning less demand for workers.
     
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    So how is that taking back control?

    Privatisation we gave our family silver away and with Brexit we will give our private industries away.

    :p
     
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    Your wrong this is still perfectly acceptable, except that now they have to fill in some forms
     
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    It isn't, the farming community isn't too pleased.
    The idea of Kangaroo meat coming to Britain has them hopping mad.
     
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    Brickies? Painters? Electricians? Chippies? Mechanics? Building labourers? Plumbers? Are you sure nobody wanted those jobs? I think EU labour ****ed up the wages for all those trades - coming over here, living ten to a flat, hot bedding and undercutting the day rates for all those trades. Bloke next door to me gave up site painting because of the Europeans - firms wanted him to work for the same rate - £80 for an 8-6 day.
     
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    £80 a day in London is like £40 a day in other parts of the country.
    My brothers window cleaner in W. London earned £80 a day but that was 30 years ago.
    Sad to see the decline, London used to be the place to go.
    Even the Irish aren't interested any more.
     
  15. A 2009 report from PricewaterhouseCoopers, citing data from the UK Office for National Statistics, stated that manufacturing output (gross value added at 2007 prices) has increased in 35 of the 50 years between 1958 and 2007, and output in 2007 was at record levels, approximately double that in 1958.

    If wed been more "EU-like" in our attitude to housing, living costs would not have spiralled so far and so fast.
    If wed not sold off our electricity and gas infrastructure to increase the profits of foreign companies maybe fuel prices wouldnt have risen so fast.
    If wed not broken up our railway infrastructure maybe travel costs would be lower.
    If wed not deregulated buses maybe people could get to work cheaper.

    Business after Brexit: a tale of red tape and higher costs

    In June 1971 John Davies, Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, declared there will be no more state subsidies for the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders – all part of Ted Heath’s plans to remove “lame duck” industries from the public purse.

    Note that that was over 20 years before the creation of the Single Market we helped create and recently have been so desperate to leave.

    The EU’s state aid rules permit governments to offer some types of subsidies to business. The UK makes less use of these permissions than most member states. As the chart below shows, in 2017, the UK government spent 0.4% of GDP on state aid: this compares to an average of 0.7% across the EU as a whole – and a maximum of 6.7% in Sweden.

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    https://www.courthousenews.com/eu-court-thwacks-at-german-bailout-for-thomas-cook-airline/
     
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    I suspect they'll hardly notice, unless Germany and Italy make a song and dance about it. Because Germany and Italy import a far larger proportion of their gas needs than France.
    And since 2013 France has vastly increased it's generation of wind power and nuclear electricity.
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