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The thing which amazes me is the fact that we are an island, and all around our coast the sea rises and falls twice a day every day without fail, yet all the money goes to unreliable wind & sun. Also we have a range of hills running through most of the country with fast flowing streams and rivers running off them and don't and tap them for hydro power, and there must be hundreds of derelict water mills which could be cheaply converted.

You're quite correct, I'm sure. Water power, of one sort or another, is much more reliable than wind. Some may argue, perhaps, that droughts might have an effect, but certainly tides will never stop rising and falling.
 
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The thing which amazes me is the fact that we are an island, and all around our coast the sea rises and falls twice a day every day without fail, yet all the money goes to unreliable wind & sun. Also we have a range of hills running through most of the country with fast flowing streams and rivers running off them and don't and tap them for hydro power, and there must be hundreds of derelict water mills which could be cheaply converted.

You're quite correct, I'm sure. Water power, of one sort or another, is much more reliable than wind. Some may argue, perhaps, that droughts might have an effect, but certainly tides will never stop rising and falling.

There's no profit to be made in tidal barrages, hence the little interest by the power providers. Why build a Bristol Channel tidal barrage with only 2 or 3 big turbines, when a hundred wind turbines can do the same job......when the wind blows.
 
I am in for wind and solar power any time, if anyone wants to put one in my back garden, you are most welcome, don't need my permission for this either. just go ahead and never mind the critics and those who object to its impact on the surroundings, eff the surroundings what matetrs most is that we should not act selfish and spend all our fossile fuels for our selfish use, let us leave some of it for our future generations too. People easily are selfish when they say not in my backyard, but in mine anytime.
 
if anyone wants to put one in my back garden, you are most welcome, don't need my permission for this either.
I wouldn't think that is true but don't know for sure.

Either way, you will receive substantial rental payments which is why they are so 'popular'.
 
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I am in for wind and solar power any time, if anyone wants to put one in my back garden, you are most welcome, don't need my permission for this either. just go ahead and never mind the critics and those who object to its impact on the surroundings, eff the surroundings what matetrs most is that we should not act selfish and spend all our fossile fuels for our selfish use, let us leave some of it for our future generations too. People easily are selfish when they say not in my backyard, but in mine anytime.

I agree completely.

I realise it won't make any appreciable difference to the nation's power generation but, yes, please put one up in my back garden.

I'm sure we can come to a mutually acceptable agreement about how much rent you will pay me.
 
The thing which amazes me is the fact that we are an island, and all around our coast the sea rises and falls twice a day every day without fail, yet all the money goes to unreliable wind & sun. Also we have a range of hills running through most of the country with fast flowing streams and rivers running off them and don't and tap them for hydro power, and there must be hundreds of derelict water mills which could be cheaply converted.

Jeez, bet no-one ever thought of that... scientists.... rubbish :rolleyes:

But to enlighten you the vast majority if the UK is really completely unsuitable for generating hydro power.

Man made climate change is arguably and I will say arguably very probable.

renewables... well dead iffy... way forward...... nuclear. End of debate for me.
 
Just as a matter of interest, all these "green" schemes are remarkably shy of quoting the MWe figures.

Anyhow, the Swansea scheme is apparently 320MW
http://www.tidallagoonswanseabay.com/proposal-overview-and-vision.aspx

For 14 hours a day. Useful that. Like having a car engine that works for 14 hours a day at ever changing times!

Hinkley B is rated at 1250MW.
I assume that unless they turn it off when they go home for tea, then that runs 24 / 7 / 365.

Nuclear has to be the answer unless we are going to end up shivering in the dark. The "green" stuff is pure political fluff, "Look how green we are" brought on by silly agreements that whatever bunch of self interested politicians that were in that week have landed on us.
 
Of all the nonsensical 'greenie' suggestions, at least tidal is the most practical and will offer some reliable output. However, as others have stated, the only real option is nuclear.

What I cannot believe is, bearing in mind the importance to the country of reliable electricity production, that the green lobby is paid so much credence. Presumably, it is the wish of our politicians to buy votes from the naive public and support from greedy land owners.

Perhaps when the lights start going out, Joe Bloggs will forget his irrational fear of nuclear power.
 
Possibly a long, cold winter might be a good thing if it results in brownouts and actual cuts.

Perhaps then, the Greens (those who devote their lives to dragging us back to the Middle Ages while the rest of the world moves on) would get a taste of what their utopia migt be like.
 
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the sooner we move on to barrages across the Severn and Thames estuaries, and Morecambe Bay, the sooner we'll have a massive and reliable source of power that won't wreck the planet, and won't take as long to clear up as Fukushima or Chernobyl.
 
I thought nuclear provides one sixth of the UK electricity with 16 reactors providing 10 gigawatts?

It will cost £60 billion to bring 16 gigawatts worth of new reactors online in the early twenties.
Just when the current bunch are being decommissioned.
Basically one step forward and then one step back again.


A move to Scotland might be a good idea as renewables will be keeping their lights on.
 
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