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Lol - very good, though Cornish last week officially declared an extinct language - not unlike my electrical skills !! :-)

SparkySpike thank you so much for that I have done as you said - works perfectly !!! I know it was a simple thing for those in the trade - but as a pencil pusher it was like doing a rubiks cube !!! thanks again mate Steve :-)

Help please !!!! lol I am removing a normal light bulb ceiling fitting and replacing with fluch mounted light fitting (from Homebase) On removing the existing celing rose - it was a 'loop' type. There are two live (red) wires / two earth wires / two neutral wires (black) One of these is...