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I think I covered this before, but here's the answer again: If the test had been performed, and the pipes were not found to be suitable, then I would have had the option of: a) Getting my exisiting boiler repaired (which otherwise worked OK with the existing pipes), b) Getting a...

Absolutely priceless Transam, thanks a lot mate. :lol: If I needed someone to sum up my earlier views about the 'professional' attitude of the average tradesmen you did it perfectly for me, and on a public forum. If you want to make more of this, I'll be happy to hear. I couldn't have...

JohnD, that is pretty close to my overall opinion. I have stated from the start that I do not believe it is reasonable to expect a business to take on the risk of repairing existing pipe installations. However I do believe it is the responsibility of a company to test the pipes prior to...

As I mentioned earlier, nearly all posters are tradesmen, so it's no big surprise. And more importantly, Consumer Direct and the Institute appear to have very different opinions. So you might be judging the final score a bit too early :wink:

I most certainly did not make it up, by all means check with them, and hopefully follow their advise in future.

I appreciate your point, but again I am not sure it is a good analogy. In this particular case the pipes burst immediately after first running the boiler, not at some significant period afterwards (in which case my arguments would be less valid). So I am therefore questioning the...

I think your example is also not analogous; I was certainly NOT aware of any leaking pipes prior to the installation. I transferred responsibility to the company for installing a boiler (the type of which they specified) to operate with the existing pipes. They did not make me aware that it...

My argument against that is the company specified the boiler type (combi) and boiler make and model, that was not my decision. They therefore have some responsibility for ensuring that it works with the existing pipes (i.e. the complete system). They state they performed a pressure test...

expertgasman, I am a bit confused by that quote. What responsibility do I have exactly? If I had installed the system, and not performed the tests correctly, fair enough, that is my responsibility. The pipes were not fit for the combi, end of story. Instead I paid a third party to...

Norcon, thanks for the info. I (and the company involved) have assumed to data that it is due to leaking pipes, although at present (unlike previously) there is no sign of a water leak. I independently tested the EV without any signs of a water leak on the external outlet pipe. For...

Sorry heatingman, Consumer Direct and the Institute of Heating and Plumbing Engineers do not agree with your view. And it is quite possible that only their opinion ultimately will really matter.

Expertgasman, so far the only whinging I have seen has been on the part of engineers on here because their practices are being questioned. I have been primarily asking questions about what practices should be expected to occur when a combi is installed. So from your post, can I infer that...

The company subsequently told me that they did perform the test, I find it strange that the boiler failed immediately on first operation (the only possible explanation if the test was performed properly is that that it was an unfortunate coincidence of timing, or some other operation such as...

Norcon, I believe that is also quite possible, and if I had chosen to repair my previous boiler, instead of replacing it, the leak could have continued unknown to me. What I do not know is whether, it being a lower pressure system, it represented a major problem. If I had chosen to keep...

"There is not any form of non-destructive pressure testing that can be done on existing pipework to establish if it will be suitable for a sealed system". HeatingMan, thanks for the input. Are you saying that it is not possible to pressure test existing pipes (either destructively or not)...

electronicsuk, regarding what my response would be, had the test revealed a leak: First and foremost it is hypothetical now because I have doubts whether an adequate test was ever performed. If it did it, it seems quite a coincidence that it passed, but problems occurred with the pipes...

Broken my vow of silence, but have to clear this up: I asked the installing company whether they performed a test prior to installation, THEY told me that they did as it was a standard procedure for installing a combi (I asked them AFTER they had performed the installation and we had...

The main point I was making was that the system I was replacing (because it was very old and developed faults not related to loss of pressure) was FUNCTIONAL with the existing pipes (it was an open system). The company I used RECOMMENDED that I use a combi boiler, which immediately failed to...

Heatingman, I think anyone on this forum would be well advised to steer clear of you for any work, if you believe the opinions of your governing body are horse; the word 'cowboy' appears apt. :lol: If you honestly believe you can supply a service at such costs without any risk on your...

electronicsuk, if you read through my posts you will see that had the test failed I could have had the option of using a lower pressure system; I was replacing an older open system that did not have a problem with leaking pipes. As for me just trying to get some money from the installer...