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and on the 8th day, the lord sayeth "let there be light" all sorted now :lol:

its looking like i may have to bite the bullet and get a sparky out i think. ah well, it was worth a try. thanks for giving me your time matey.

Downstairs socket. Wire to common in grey sheath is not part of 3 core, is separate wire UPSTAIRS SOCKET>>>Looking here you should see that there are 3 different cables going to switch, i know this switch is being spurred from an old unit about 5 inches away red red in choc block blue...

i'll take photo's tomorrow morning buddy. too dark to see now. t.b.h nothing surprises me in this bloody house any more.

yes i agree, it may have been better to start a new thread, sorry. All the lights upstairs have ceased to work. (i'm hoping that they will spring back to life when this fitting is reinstalled. There used to be another fitting connected to the 2 way switches but that was taken out a while ago...

i've recently had a disaster at home where a ceiling has fallen. I'm confident with light fittings but this one has stumped me. WHen the ceiling fell obviously the light fitting went with it. ok, to my problem. In the switch, i have (connected by block) 2 red, 1 black 1 blue, yellow to...