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Which was more or less the Roman reaction to the early Christians - and look what happened there. And St Paul didn't have facebook, twitter, youtube and the blogosphere to help him.

Short version of long story: We live in a house built in 2000 and all the CH (including increasingly cranky boiler) dates from then. Over the winter we had cause to bleed the radiators and all seemed well. One of our rooms is over a public passageway. One day a neighbour came and said...

Sorry, slight mistake. I seem to have edited a post with material which should have been a new one. So I'll repeat the substance here: Sorry about that .. db

That's OK, "confusing essays" I know about. :roll: And, actually, between you, you are all starting to make sense. Now I know where the MR16 gets its name, could someone enlighten me (just curiosity this one) where the "GU10" name comes from? db

Thanks for the help, guys. I took a quick look at the Philips site (getting quickly past the attempts to sell me "anti-aging products") and am still a little confused. The brightest bulb they have there is labelled 11W (60W). Now if that's the equivalent wattage to a 60W conventional bulb...

I'm no longer able to do anything myself, except make a nuisance of myself to the tradesmen I hire to do jobs for me. And the first rule of good interference is to know what you're talking about - preferably before you specify the job and hire the tradesmen. So here I am at a place called DIY...