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thanks mw, but problem now all sorted - I got on the phone and made a nuisance of myself and it worked! Erik

thanks chappers, will give it a go - they can only say no! erik

Tried everything and failed miserably. Would you believe though, almost by accident I found exactly what I needed at nationalplastics.co.uk - a pretty good website by the look of it. All I need to do now is find out how to get around the £9.99 p & p charge for a couple of £1.50 brackets...

Not the most interesting thread I know, but I need to find square, black rainwater downpipe brackets that allow the pipe to sit flush to the wall. All the ones I have found have a small gap behind. I know this is a good idea, but I am replacing old guttering on an outbuilding and the only way I...