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Interesting, thank you. I'm going to hang a 5kg weight on there to see if it holds.

Yeah think it is plaster. Thanks for advice!

Will do, though I'm not sure it's possible given the small opening of the rose. If it is the joist, would you Suggest screwing through the rose into the joist?

thanks, terryplumb. The existing pendant isn't even screwed on (previous owners did a lot of funny things). There is a metal hook screwed into the ceiling, and the wire from the existing pendant disappears behind that.

Hi, long time lurker, first time poster. My wife has bought some large - very large - pendant lights. They weigh over 5kg each and I'm looking for advice on how to approach the problems they've presented. Presently there are two decorative ceiling roses. I can't see any screws, so think they...