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Hi tockworth ,thanks for your input, it looks like a programmer problem .

Hi Tockworth, no nothing happens ,the only part of the programme that will start is the final spin,it all seems dead appart from that .

My old Hotpoint wont run on any of the wash programs but will run on the spin cycle,could it be the timer/programmer thats up the creek or another component not responding to the programmer,I hope someone can help , regards john

I have a Vaillant VCW BG 282 EH wall mounted combi boiler,recently at night there has been a "knocking" in the boiler at about one second intervals quite loud at first then dying away it starts again after 15-20 mins, i stop it by turning off the cold water supply to the boiler and turning on...