Do you agree or not?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...n-MP-in-astonishing-rant-against-capital.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...n-MP-in-astonishing-rant-against-capital.html
London Sucks
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joinerjohn
Ahh I see it's Austin Mitchell, MP for Great Grimsby.. Well Last time I was in Grimsby, I can assure you there was nowt Great about it.
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AssociatedAlarms
Ahh this person
So a stable man whose interests are about photography and New Zealand.
Who regularly commutes and works in London for a probable fairly good salary and "directorships". Far more the good old Grimsby gives him I bet.
Oh god another nutter.
So a stable man whose interests are about photography and New Zealand.
Who regularly commutes and works in London for a probable fairly good salary and "directorships". Far more the good old Grimsby gives him I bet.
Oh god another nutter.
Who happens to have a point.
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AssociatedAlarms
Not really.
The other major cities have not the infrastructure to cope ATM. Until recently one of the largest ISP providers in the Midlands had to use London servers and then Manchester to provide a service "North of Watford".
Traditional "hubs" have always existed "darn south" and because of the success and international travel infrastructure have continued to be so.
If and when the new rail links are ready then there could be more to argue about for the inclusion of "The North".
Can you hand on heart say "Grimsby" is ready to take on a role in the international markets as it is now?
The other major cities have not the infrastructure to cope ATM. Until recently one of the largest ISP providers in the Midlands had to use London servers and then Manchester to provide a service "North of Watford".
Traditional "hubs" have always existed "darn south" and because of the success and international travel infrastructure have continued to be so.
If and when the new rail links are ready then there could be more to argue about for the inclusion of "The North".
Can you hand on heart say "Grimsby" is ready to take on a role in the international markets as it is now?
The reason london has the infrastructure that other regions lack is because it's London which attracts most of the investment, private and public.
It's a vicious circle and has needed addressing for very many years.
It's a vicious circle and has needed addressing for very many years.
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AssociatedAlarms
AS I SAID.
There are high speed private hubs now past Manchester and one I know personally has more in mind. He had to start in London and when the fibre got past Manchester he leapt on it to get it further up. Once the communications are in place then there may well be a "fairer" spread of wealth and business.
The other stumbling block is airports.
As I mentioned the new rail links may also assist in this, as now the Eurostar is an accepted form of transport.
Its great in fact London to Paris £70 and 2 hours. Cheaper and faster than London to Northern things. Try it, it really is good, and have a glass of champers under the new glass roof over the station, really good to take the misses for a romantic weekend.
That is why, for one reason. As before the access and quality.
There are high speed private hubs now past Manchester and one I know personally has more in mind. He had to start in London and when the fibre got past Manchester he leapt on it to get it further up. Once the communications are in place then there may well be a "fairer" spread of wealth and business.
The other stumbling block is airports.
As I mentioned the new rail links may also assist in this, as now the Eurostar is an accepted form of transport.
Its great in fact London to Paris £70 and 2 hours. Cheaper and faster than London to Northern things. Try it, it really is good, and have a glass of champers under the new glass roof over the station, really good to take the misses for a romantic weekend.
That is why, for one reason. As before the access and quality.
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Contrary to the crass ramblings of Austin Mitchell a more cogent article was published recently in the Spectator: Another country.
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AssociatedAlarms
A nice one sided out of date boiled stew ;D
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skyboy
No London and down south do have it all a bit skewed their own way.
Its naive to think otherwise.
Take the heating supplements to old people....
For years nothing was done as elderly people oop North died of hypothermia then all of a sudden you got a snowflake on London one year and all of a sudden lets hand out £200 to everybody.
Thats just a small example of how London and its policymakers have a very insular view of the UK.
Laws that have no relevance outside of London get passed as a countrywide remit and only issues affecting London have a fair hearing timewise in Parliament.
To be honest I don't really care I am happy to live anywhere away from London where the scenery is better , the people are better and the housing and parking are better.
If London was so great then I would go there but paying extra for everything , housing , transport , food , congestion charge etc etc just to be made to feel a stranger in my own country as more than 50% of people I would travel with would be immigrants or ethnic..
It doesn't appeal to me. sorry.
Its naive to think otherwise.
Take the heating supplements to old people....
For years nothing was done as elderly people oop North died of hypothermia then all of a sudden you got a snowflake on London one year and all of a sudden lets hand out £200 to everybody.
Thats just a small example of how London and its policymakers have a very insular view of the UK.
Laws that have no relevance outside of London get passed as a countrywide remit and only issues affecting London have a fair hearing timewise in Parliament.
To be honest I don't really care I am happy to live anywhere away from London where the scenery is better , the people are better and the housing and parking are better.
If London was so great then I would go there but paying extra for everything , housing , transport , food , congestion charge etc etc just to be made to feel a stranger in my own country as more than 50% of people I would travel with would be immigrants or ethnic..
It doesn't appeal to me. sorry.
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EddieM
I would say yes, london does suck the life out of the north, but not just the north, the rest of the country. time after time policy seems to revolve around the fact we all live in a big city, with plentiful (note i didn't use the word good!) transport links, high speed fibre broadband and plentiful public amenities.
If you live, as I chose to do in a very rural spot, there really is nothing for you in government policy.
Important distinction though, london may suck the life out its surroundings, but i have no issue at all with londoners, it truly is a great city. (i worked there for nearly 20 years)
If you live, as I chose to do in a very rural spot, there really is nothing for you in government policy.
Important distinction though, london may suck the life out its surroundings, but i have no issue at all with londoners, it truly is a great city. (i worked there for nearly 20 years)
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