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I have been reading this BBC report on how teaching assistances are claiming they are skilled, in any job one clearly learns skills, but in the main we judge as to if skilled by the amount of time which is required to train for the work, any building site, factory or other venue where there is some risk, workers are trained to avoid the hazards, it may take an hour to whole day, and then during the job often we have tool box talks which afford further training, some which could take up to a week, but I would not consider that training as making the worker skilled.
An electricians mate is considered as semi-skilled, he will often have training as to regulations, the one assigned to me, was there primary to conform with heath and safety rules, so I was not a lone worker, he was required to have a driving licence, which in the main means two weeks training and a test, he was likely doing well over what he should have been doing, looking at the Emma Shaw case, but he was working on my instructions, I was the skilled person.
I would have thought a teaching assistance should be also working under the instructions of the teacher, the teacher is above skilled as skilled normally needs level 3 collage education and teachers I would assume are level 6 at least, it is considered as a vocation as with nurses, rather than a professional as back in history the job was often low pay or unpaid and only people with a private income could really afford to do the job.
I would have said a skilled worker needs at least a level 3 qualification in the work they do, but the exam to show you can read the wiring regulations is level 3, as are 'A' levels, so I would say skilled would require a level 3 qualification, but a level 3 does not make some one skilled.
I am not saying anyone should not get a good wage, I would say the longer some one needs to train before they can earn money the greater renunciation they should expect, however nurses are supported thought university nearly every other professional has to support themselves through university so using that argument nurses should be paid less than other graduates. It does seem some professions are low paid, archaeology for example, mainly as with nurses and school teaches it is a vocation with people doing the work for just expenses or for free.
I now work for no money, I volunteer at a heritage railway, OK for me I am retired now, but the railway can't give any workers money for their work unless it is to minimum wage, this all or nothing seem mad, there are a few jobs where the skills are so specialised that they can only work for one employer, health service, schools, and social services, but in the main, the idea should be, if you don't like the money move to a job which pays better.
I did not like the money I was getting so got off my backside and went to work in Algeria, Falkland Islands and Hong Kong, I did not just accept my lot, there seems to be too many people looking for a hand out, to my mind minimum wage for 40 hours should not exceed government old age pension, if as a pensioner we can live on it, why can't others?
An electricians mate is considered as semi-skilled, he will often have training as to regulations, the one assigned to me, was there primary to conform with heath and safety rules, so I was not a lone worker, he was required to have a driving licence, which in the main means two weeks training and a test, he was likely doing well over what he should have been doing, looking at the Emma Shaw case, but he was working on my instructions, I was the skilled person.
I would have thought a teaching assistance should be also working under the instructions of the teacher, the teacher is above skilled as skilled normally needs level 3 collage education and teachers I would assume are level 6 at least, it is considered as a vocation as with nurses, rather than a professional as back in history the job was often low pay or unpaid and only people with a private income could really afford to do the job.
I would have said a skilled worker needs at least a level 3 qualification in the work they do, but the exam to show you can read the wiring regulations is level 3, as are 'A' levels, so I would say skilled would require a level 3 qualification, but a level 3 does not make some one skilled.
I am not saying anyone should not get a good wage, I would say the longer some one needs to train before they can earn money the greater renunciation they should expect, however nurses are supported thought university nearly every other professional has to support themselves through university so using that argument nurses should be paid less than other graduates. It does seem some professions are low paid, archaeology for example, mainly as with nurses and school teaches it is a vocation with people doing the work for just expenses or for free.
I now work for no money, I volunteer at a heritage railway, OK for me I am retired now, but the railway can't give any workers money for their work unless it is to minimum wage, this all or nothing seem mad, there are a few jobs where the skills are so specialised that they can only work for one employer, health service, schools, and social services, but in the main, the idea should be, if you don't like the money move to a job which pays better.
I did not like the money I was getting so got off my backside and went to work in Algeria, Falkland Islands and Hong Kong, I did not just accept my lot, there seems to be too many people looking for a hand out, to my mind minimum wage for 40 hours should not exceed government old age pension, if as a pensioner we can live on it, why can't others?