Window hinges/seals

[Cgas]

Hi all,
In process of renovating a house and it's like problem after problem. Was going round lubing windows and cleaning em - don't think the previous owner ever opened them as more then half the brackets have snapped when I opened them.
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• Cgas
• 5 May 2015
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• Cgas
• 5 May 2015
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I'm assuming the whole bracket needs changing when this happens ? No way of just changing the lever mechanism?

Also the black seal that runs around inside & outside - can this just be pulled out and replaced with a standard one? Is it one seal fits all job or are there different types for specific types of windows?
For example this; http://m.screwfix.com/p/stormguard-...0Ironmongery&gclid=CKq2w_63q8UCFXDLtAod1ngACA

Any help appreciated, cheers

 

[Gazman16]

Yes you would need to take the sash's out to change the whole hinge.
By the looks of it the only bit thats broken is the friction stay part (this pretty much just stops the windows blowing open and closed in the wind).

Is it causing any problems with the operation of the windows?
I personally would be tempted to cut out the broken plastic bit on one of the windows first and see what its like. The hinges may be stiff enough on their own to not really need the friction stay. If you do decide to change the hinges post back here first as there are a few things to check before you order new ones.

As for the gaskets there are many different sizes and types. Firstly see if your are removable by pulling a bit out. If it does come out cut a little bit off so you can see a cross section and take sizes.

You can get little sample packs from ebay to check the type and size before you order a load:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bubble-Ga...810?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d31bd23aa

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bubble-Ga...565?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27c8fc02ed

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BUBBLE-FL...327?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item35ba4fcf7f

Once you know the type and size you can get it from ebay for 99p/m and get as much or little as you want.

 

[Cgas]

Yes you would need to take the sash's out to change the whole hinge.
By the looks of it the only bit thats broken is the friction stay part (this pretty much just stops the windows blowing open and closed in the wind).

Is it causing any problems with the operation of the windows?
I personally would be tempted to cut out the broken plastic bit on one of the windows first and see what its like. The hinges may be stiff enough on their own to not really need the friction stay. If you do decide to change the hinges post back here first as there are a few things to check before you order new ones.

As for the gaskets there are many different sizes and types. Firstly see if your are removable by pulling a bit out. If it does come out cut a little bit off so you can see a cross section and take sizes.

You can get little sample packs from ebay to check the type and size before you order a load:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bubble-Ga...810?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d31bd23aa

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bubble-Ga...565?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27c8fc02ed

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BUBBLE-FL...327?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item35ba4fcf7f

Once you know the type and size you can get it from ebay for 99p/m and get as much or little as you want.

Thanks for that, really helpful, yeah it's effecting the operation of the window, u see in the picture the top part of the window should stay in and just the bottom fold out, but I think cause hinge is stuffed the whole window literally looks like it's going to fall off. When the window is open u have to climb up ladder outside and push the window upwards so someone inside can pull it fully home!! I will have a look at seals tomorrow are the sash's heavy? If I get someone to unscrew from inside and I told sash outside - bearing in mind it's quite high up! By sash I assume u mean the fold out window bit ? Cheers!

 

[Gazman16]

I would hang fire on the seals until you have done the hinges then as changing the hinges could fix any draft problems you have with the seals.

Yes by sash I mean the opening part of the window. I personally would take these out on my own from inside (yours are nice and small so easy to do) but an extra set of hands will help and is recommended!

I would hold the sash at the top with my left hand while taking out the screws with my right hand and a drill (magnetic bits will help too), The lean the sash out lower it down a bit and pull it in through on an angle.

Measuring the length of the hinge is easy and self explanatory but you also need to measure the stack height, For this you need to take a sash out and measure the overall thickness of the hinge (either 13mm or 17mm).

Also when you come to fit the new hinges the fixing holes are 90% of the time in different places so firstly offer the hinges up to the frame and pilot any new holes needed there.
The sash is trickier first mark the position of the old hinges (in-case you need to put them back) then sit the new hinge along side with the same about of overhang from the end of the sash and mark a line where new fixing holes will go.
Fit the hinge, put the sash back in and check that it works ok (also check that the corner weld on the sash's are meeting up pretty well with the welds on the frame), You may need to take it back out and adjust the hinges a few mm here and there.

Once you have done one and got the hang of it you should fly through the rest.