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boilerbeasty

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 173 Location: United Kingdom Thanked: 4 times
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:59 pm |
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Hi
Two PIR+microwave detectors connected up to my Scantronic 9651 system have failed (1 about 9-12mnths ago, and another recently). They've lasted about 15 years based on the warranty label inside one of them, so that's pretty good. I can tell from the rooms they are in why they are PIR+microwave rather than just PIR.
So now I need to replace them. Are there any to recommend or to avoid ? Its a standard 6 wire system - power, alarm, and tamper circuits. Any recommendation for supplier ?
Also, will I have to put the panel into engineer mode to replace them ? I'd rather not since I don't have the engineer code and I'd rather not open up the panel and reset the whole system to factory defaults.
cheers,
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lee2009

Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 675 Location: Northumberland, United Kingdom Thanked: 35 times
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:16 pm |
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sparkymarka

Joined: 16 Feb 2011 Posts: 1088 Location: Sheffield, United Kingdom Thanked: 182 times
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:53 pm |
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What make where the ones that failed ? big optex fan been using since late eighties go for mx40 dueltecs |
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lee2009

Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 675 Location: Northumberland, United Kingdom Thanked: 35 times
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:56 pm |
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| sparkymarka wrote: | | What make where the ones that failed ? big optex fan been using since late eighties go for mx40 dueltecs |
im a fan too, redwall cctv |
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boilerbeasty

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 173 Location: United Kingdom Thanked: 4 times
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:01 pm |
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I couldn't find any make or model number, here's a pic I took of the internals (mostly to make sure i'd recorded the wiring somewhere besides a bit of paper. I assume they all look very similar inside.
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josh451

Joined: 26 Jul 2009 Posts: 177 Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 18 times
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Alarm

Joined: 18 Oct 2010 Posts: 8971 Location: London, United Kingdom Thanked: 527 times
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:39 pm |
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I hope that 9651 is on user tamper reset or your in trouble.
It will not work now if it is on engineer reset. |
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alumni

Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Posts: 2746 Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 81 times
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:42 am |
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Come and re cable mine for me today then. About a 1,000 metres should cover it. |
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sparkymarka

Joined: 16 Feb 2011 Posts: 1088 Location: Sheffield, United Kingdom Thanked: 182 times
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:08 am |
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pyronix equinox... what went wrong ? just getting an orange light only ? been changing a few pyronix detectors over the last few years, most common fault is the white light filter lens (white not clear) they go brittle and don't allow the ir to work. |
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boilerbeasty

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 173 Location: United Kingdom Thanked: 4 times
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:22 am |
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I think the one in the conservatory has a single red light (i.e. the middle LED). The lens becoming brittle wouldn't surprise me, I expect the ambient temperature can get pretty high.
The other one has nothing at all - although the microwave element was a bit warm when I opened it up. It was working fine until this week, and just seems to have expired.
When I took the sensor apart, the panel alerted 'Global Tamper' and "Call Engineer". But when I put the user code it (and after I put the detector back together closing the tamper switch), the fault appeared to be cleared. I'm able to set the alarm (omitting the zones with the faulty detectors). So I guess I can swap the detectors out with some care.
I think I will order a couple of the Honeywell ones. Is there any benefit to getting the "pet tolerant" ones given there are no animals in the house ?
Thanks for all the replies so far. |
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