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howy1

Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 275 Location: Norwich, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:15 pm |
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Hello all , just wondered if anyone has experience of this situation ?
Can your company cut your wage if it so desired even if you are doing the same job and same hours , if so how could or would they do it .
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Alarm

Joined: 18 Oct 2010 Posts: 8971 Location: London, United Kingdom Thanked: 527 times
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:21 pm |
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joe-90

Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 26215 Location: United Kingdom Thanked: 788 times
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm |
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If you don't take a pay cut - then the company may go broke and you won't have a job. |
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imamartian

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 8994 Location: Derbyshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 54 times
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Bodgeitandleggit

Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 1117 Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 5 times
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:37 pm |
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| joe-90 wrote: | | If you don't take a pay cut - then the company may go broke and you won't have a job. |
Problem is joe is that some companies during the recession know people are frightened of losing their jobs so they give the usual bumf that the company is in trouble losing money/orders and try to enforce a pay cut even when its still profitable |
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freddymercurystwin

Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 10391 Location: Devon, United Kingdom Thanked: 1054 times
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howy1

Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 275 Location: Norwich, United Kingdom
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enyam

Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 1724 Location: Devon, United Kingdom Thanked: 26 times
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:48 pm |
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| joe-90 wrote: | | If you don't take a pay cut - then the company may go broke and you won't have a job. |
I seem to recall the workers at JCB back in 2008 taking a pay cut and still ended up losing their jobs,so its not always the best route to take. |
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joinerjohn

Joined: 28 Nov 2009 Posts: 6146 Location: Derby, United Kingdom Thanked: 198 times
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:53 pm |
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Last shopfitting firm I worked for made 1/3rd of the workforce redundant shortly after the recession hit and asked the remaining staff to voluntarily take a 10% cut in wages. Those who didn't accept were top of the hit list for continuing redundancies. I accepted the wage cut and hung on for another year before finally being made redundant. Redundancy pay was of course based on normal wages, not the wages - 10% |
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imamartian

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 8994 Location: Derbyshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 54 times
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:57 pm |
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| imamartian wrote: | but are they just seeing salaries as a cutable cost in order to meet the 4billion profit they forcast?  |
like i said !!
it's the shareholders that are important, not you workers !!!  |
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wotan

Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 10919 Location: Cheshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 138 times
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:07 pm |
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One of the most devious tools employers used, is de-selection
Everyone is marked against a (so called impartial matrix) on numerous parameters of the job, each person being assessed, by three different people. The final outcome is the sum result of how your performance on the matrix topics covered, is totalled up.
In effect if your face fits then you still have a job, if not you are offered a position at several thousands pounds less.
Talk about moving the goal posts, if they want you out then it's goodbye!
Personal experience.........
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Alarm

Joined: 18 Oct 2010 Posts: 8971 Location: London, United Kingdom Thanked: 527 times
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:09 pm |
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As its been said. Life`s not fair.
Been down the redundancy road before. Most qualified, not the last in.
Highest paid though. For the least hours. |
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howy1

Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 275 Location: Norwich, United Kingdom
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wotan

Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 10919 Location: Cheshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 138 times
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:22 pm |
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| howy1 wrote: | Wotan i would say you are near the mark , as yet i dont know how it will show its self till it comes but i am preparing to be massaged perfusley ending up beeing shafted with the rough end of a pineapple  | Please let (me), us know the outcome
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imamartian

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 8994 Location: Derbyshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 54 times
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:25 pm |
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the only answer really is to take redundo, and buy a business... shop or something... then you can cut costs (staff included) and raise prices.... something you can't do as an employee !!! |
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