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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:25 pm Post Subject:
DIA, no need to use naughty words to describe Mod 7. Mod 11 should clean up your posting.
Mod 7 was totally right to realise that something needed to be done. I expect that he did not understand the technicalities or even realise that some of the advice we give can prevent serious accidents or potentially deaths. Its surprising that so many people dont appreciate the benefits of having their work done by a qualified person who can eliminate dangerous situations.
The post should be allowed to continue after it has been cleaned up.
There have been several threads locked lately and very unfortunately mostly after Goldberg has been involved.
If all the Goldberg postings and responses were stripped out then the remainder is perfectly reasonable.
Kindly explain which of my posts were unreasonable, and/or incorrect, and/or broke any forum rule.
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Isnt my quote
I didn't say that it was. Did you not read the post properly, or are you a "fu cking retard"?
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Kindly explain which of my posts were unreasonable, and/or incorrect, and/or broke any forum rule.
I am sure that you are able to see that the locked posts are ALL ones in which you have been involved.
There is a clear correlation between posts being locked and your involvement!
As an aside, you say you are in NW London and that you have fitted many cylinders. Why is it that your name and plumbing together does not bring up any results in an internet search?
Since NW London is my local area then why is it that I have never heard of you either?
There have been several threads locked lately and very unfortunately mostly after Goldberg has been involved.
You seem to think that the lone voice is automatically wrong, which isn't a very civilised point of view.
Most of my posts on this forum are hounded by a posse of little puppies, yapping pointlessly at the world in general. These posters are the true trolls because they merely add abuse and incorrect, and irrelevant, accusations.
Kindly explain which of my posts were unreasonable, and/or incorrect, and/or broke any forum rule.
I am sure that you are able to see that the locked posts are ALL ones in which you have been involved.
Is involvement now against the forum rules? Could you be more specific about why that involvement was unacceptable?
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There is a clear correlation between posts being locked and your involvement!
It isn't that clear to me. If the cause of the locking was incorrect information, then that came from other forum members, not me.
If the cause of the locking was abuse, then that came from other forum members, not me.
If the cause of the locking was unhelpfulness, then that came from other forum members, not me.
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As an aside, you say you are in NW London
As an aside, where do I say that?
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and that you have fitted many cylinders.
Is fitting cylinders against the forum rules?
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Why is it that your name and plumbing together does not bring up any results in an internet search?
Please explain why that has any relevance to whether or not my posts are incorrect, or abusive, or unhelpful.
Or perhaps you're under the misapprehension that this forum is a private club, reserved for people you personally know or whom you can find on the Internet.
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Since NW London is my local area then why is it that I have never heard of you either?
Well I've never heard of you, so I suggest that your logic is impeccably flawed.
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Are you a member of the CIPHE ?
Is membership of anything a precondition to joining, or posting on, the forum?
Since NW London is my local area then why is it that I have never heard of you either?
Are you a member of the CIPHE ?
Don't be daft Tony, the berk has demonstrated on too many occasions that he is a troll without any real experience, is not, and never has been a RGI or a plumber, or even an apprentice.
That is why he is not a member of the CIPHE, and you have never heard of him.
His posts bear a close resemblance to those of the ignoramus posting under the name ^woody^ in a sense that they get somewhere near the correct answer, but rarely hit the mark.
He is most likely ex-council staff, like ^woody^
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