class 2 light wiring advice

cdel2005 · 5 Nov 2014

hi guys

could anybody advise how to wire this new class2 double insulated

to this existing ceiling rose

cheers

OwainDIYer · 5 Nov 2014

That light fitting is NOT class II / double insulated, and must be earthed.

Is it suitable for ceiling use - it looks like a wall light?

The earth wires in the cables must be sleeved green/yellow and connected to the Earth terminal. You should test for earth continuity back to the main earthing terminal at the consumer unit.

The 2 x red wires must be connected in a piece of insulated terminal strip - they are permanent lives. Your new light does not contain a terminal for these.

The black wire which connects to brown on the existing light should be sleeved brown and connected to L on the new light

The black wire which connects to blue on the existing light should be connected to N on the new light.

You should also check that the centre stud of the screw lampholder is connected to L and the outer ring to N.

ban-all-sheds · 5 Nov 2014

OwainDIYer said:
That light fitting is NOT class II / double insulated, and must be earthed.

You can see a connector block with an earth symbol, and you can see that one side of that terminal is connected to the body of the light.

You can see that an earth connection is shown in the wiring diagram.

What, in the name of all that is competent, makes you think that the light is Class II?

JohnW2 · 5 Nov 2014

What is that large symbol (in a square) at the top of the label? It's not a "don't install on ceiling" symbol, by any chance, is it? (As Owain said, it's pretty clearly designed for wall mounting)

Kind Regards, John

Taylortwocities · 5 Nov 2014

And that big arrow is a giveaway, with the words "This Way Up"

JohnW2 · 5 Nov 2014

Taylortwocities said:
And that big arrow is a giveaway, with the words "This Way Up"

Exactly. Any ideas about that label?

Kind Regards, John

RF Lighting · 5 Nov 2014

Why do you think you need a class two fitting?

bernardgreen · 5 Nov 2014

The label probably means the fitting must not be close to inflammable walls or ceilings.

JohnW2 · 5 Nov 2014

RF Lighting said:
Why do you think you need a class two fitting?

The OP didn't actually say that (s)he did need a Class II fitting - rather that such was what (for some reason) (s)he thought (s)he had!

Kind Regards, John

JohnW2 · 5 Nov 2014

bernardgreen said:
The label probably means the fitting must not be close to inflammable walls or ceilings.

Ah, thanks - as I said, I wondered whether it meant that it shouldn't be on a ceiling at all (which I think is the case, anyway!).

Kind Regards, John

ban-all-sheds · 5 Nov 2014

The OP also didn't say that (s)he wanted to fix it to the ceiling, only to connect it to a ceiling rose.

DaftPunk · 6 Nov 2014

Surely the clue is in CEILING rose...

cdel2005 · 6 Nov 2014

the light is a dakota plus 180 0843 AND IS NOT CLASS 2 !
http://www.astrolighting.co.uk/products/kw/0843/0843_Dakota-180

this is the product i was looking which was incorrect
http://www.astrolighting.co.uk/products/bathroom-lighting/ceiling-lights/0673_Dakota-Plus-180

thanks to all who noticed.

there are two dakota plus 180 and a dakota 180 mine is the dakota 180
although on the fitting label it states dakota plus 180 (see first pic of thread)
http://www.astrolighting.co.uk/products.aspx?search=1&style=0&kw=dakota

always use a qualified electrician

Taylortwocities · 6 Nov 2014

Blimey, that was hard work.

OK.
So you have a class I ceiling light to fit in place of the existing ceiling rose. Yes??

If so, you will need an additional bit of choc block. Use this to join together the two reds (they do not connect to anything else!)

The black that goes to the brown wire on the existing rose, that is your live to the light (should be sleeved brown or red)

The black that goes to the blue wire on the existing rose, that is your neutral to the light.

You should then be left with two bare earth conductors. These should be oversleeved green/yellow and connected to the earth terminal on the light.

That's it.

JohnW2 · 6 Nov 2014

DaftPunk said:
Surely the clue is in CEILING rose...

I don't think that anyone doubted that the OP's wish was presumably to attach it to the ceiling, where the rose was. The uncertainties discussed have been about whether the fitting pictured by the OP was suitable for fitting to a ceiling.

Kind Regards, John

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