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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:04 am    Post Subject:
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Hi All,

I have a question regarding extending cables too. If you extend a cable behind a wall or more importantly by creating a channel in a solid wall, do you have to use armoured cable or a metal tube to run the cable in before plastering over it?
I intended just to use some plastic tubing to run the cable in for the solid wall, and just the bare cable behind the plasterboard wall.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:25 am    Post Subject:
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This should be posted in "Electrics Outside the UK" as you may get advice that is not pertinent in your area.
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Hi Texmex,

I'm just registered in DK, the job is in UK!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:39 pm    Post Subject:
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There are two issues here, really.

If you are extending a cable, then there are the questions about how you should effect the join, and secondly regarding the routing of the cable, if it isn't in a permitted zone OR more than 50mm deep, then it must have mechanical protection, such as armour or earthed metal conduit - plastic tube won't hack it

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Thanks ban-all-sheds!

My plan is to run a new length of cable in for the whole length - I can put the metal tube in and earth it by connecting to the existing metal tube (which I expect is there!!!...and earthed.... I'll check).

Should not be a problem with zones - its just a socket in the livingroom, not close to water, windows or anything I could imagine being a problem.

One thing I noticed though with other stuff - existing cables behind plasterboard walls (not solid walls, just filled with some glass fibre insulation) and in floorspace has no armour - they just 'dangle' behind the platerboard or lie between the roof & floorboards between ground and first floor - I guess these should be armoured too then?

Thanks for the help!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:33 am    Post Subject:
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My plan is to run a new length of cable in for the whole length - I can put the metal tube in and earth it by connecting to the existing metal tube (which I expect is there!!!...and earthed.... I'll check).



the tube to which you refer is conduit, probably 200mm, it also has a thread on it which is how it "connects"

you camn probably hire a set of di (to cut thread) but unless you know what you are doing i would get an electrician in, in this case

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diy_ian wrote:
Thanks ban-all-sheds!

My plan is to run a new length of cable in for the whole length - I can put the metal tube in and earth it by connecting to the existing metal tube (which I expect is there!!!...and earthed.... I'll check).

Don't bank on it - use of conduit is unusual.

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Should not be a problem with zones - its just a socket in the livingroom, not close to water, windows or anything I could imagine being a problem.

I meant the zones for running buried cables, not bathroom zones - check the link in the For Reference section.

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One thing I noticed though with other stuff - existing cables behind plasterboard walls (not solid walls, just filled with some glass fibre insulation) and in floorspace has no armour - they just 'dangle' behind the platerboard or lie between the roof & floorboards between ground and first floor - I guess these should be armoured too then?

Depends where they are - check the link in the For Reference section.

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