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Attatching handrail to newel post.


 
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benjiman

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:55 pm Reply with quote

I am installing new banisters and am currently at the stage of fitting the handrail.

I have bought the handrail fasterners from wickes but when i took the old handrail off i noticed a morticed cut behind the handrail.

It was held in with nails and I have no idea what the rectangular mortice is for. However this means I cant use the fixings that I bought from wickes.

Is there any other way to attatch the handrail so it remains strong and I get a good fit?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:37 pm Reply with quote

benjiman wrote:


I have bought the handrail fasterners from wickes but when i took the old handrail off i noticed a morticed cut behind the handrail.

It was held in with nails and I have no idea what the rectangular mortice is for. However this means I cant use the fixings


hellllooo benjamin the mortice is to take a tennon on the end of the
hand rail i prefer to use offset dowels instead of nails

if you havent got enough lenght to cut a tennon and fit it
youll have to fill the mortice with a suitable bit of wood
firmly glued and i would say pegged with a dowel
going through

unless the bracket you have doesnt rely on the repair for
most of its support
you could use screws but this would look naff if done wrong
[i am refering to the repair and assuming wood grain showing]

big all
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benjiman

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:28 pm Reply with quote

Cheers mate. Think Ill screw in from under the handrail and countersink it. The fillets should cover it after.

Also another quick question.

How do I ensure that the handrail is the same angle as the baserail when fitted on?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:38 pm Reply with quote

helllooo benjiman

i assume you mean parralel to the base rail[string as i call it]
have you got 2 g clamps or mastic clamps
mark eccsactly where the under edge of the hand rail will be
clamp on a bit of wood on the inner edge of the bottom newel
sticking out enough to rest the hand rail on make shure
you protect the newel from the other jaw of the clamp
do the same at the top [the top batton will have to be
slightly lower due to the slope]
place the hand rail in situe check its not sagging
[would give you an inacurate angle]
mark bottom end and cut
return to position check a good fit if not recut
when your happy overlap the handrail onto the newel
by about 6mm the go to the top and mark the top for cutting
you should now have a handrail that fits

good luck big all
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:03 pm Reply with quote

Thanks alot for your help big all. I didnt have any clamps but used wooden battons instead to get the correct angle on the bottom of the handlerail and then just screwed the batton underneath to hold it up in the correct position. Then same with the top. Thanks once again icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:48 pm Reply with quote

easy peasy when you know

spindles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

last time i looked it was a ball 100mm across
must not pass through any gap on stairs or
handrails banisters ect
to stop a child falling through
id go for 75 to 100 just even out over
the lenght

dont forget
youve got to add one spacer to the calculation

eg 37 spindles plus 38 spacers
and its the spindle cut at the correct
angle gives you its width on the capping

check frequently to check the spindles
are verticle

check after two thirds to see if have to
tighten or loosen the gaps to fit in

big all
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