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benners66

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:54 am Reply with quote

Hi,
Iíve got an asbestos soil stack I need to remove so I can replace, and not sure where to start looking for someone to remove it.

Can anyone recommend people/companies in the Southampton/Hampshire area to get in contact with?

Is it 100% definitely a professional only job, or could it be a do with care with the right equipment & protection?

Any help appreciated on this one.

Ben
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:18 pm Reply with quote

HI

only disturb the pipe if you want to damage your lungs.
leave it to professionals .start looking in the yellow pages
and get different quotes.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:58 pm Reply with quote

LUNAT is very right.
dont disturb it.
its asbestos cement, not leathal but...

damage your lungs?????????

bad


worse
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:24 pm Reply with quote

It might not be legal to even transport it and almost certainly it would need to be taken correctly double bagged with the associated paperwork in triplicate to a suitable asbestos disposal site which would probably only accept waste from a a registered removal firm.

I encounter this problem with old asbestos flues and every time the householder seems to end up with some foreign builder removing it very cheaply. But at least I have never contravened any regulations!

Once I dismantled an asbestos flue and left it for the householder to arrange the disposal. The next day it was gone! Into the wheelie bin I expect!

Tony
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:28 pm Reply with quote

its a joke now but in 20yrs thats when you find out icon_cry.gif
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:23 am Reply with quote

Hi ..you can find an approved contractor here... http://www.arca.org.uk/ More info on asbestos here http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/index.htm

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:40 am Reply with quote

Yes, breathing asbestos is very bad for you long-term.

It is almost certainly asbestos cement, so (presuming it is in fair condition), it will not release fibres readily UNLESS you try to remove it with an angle grinder / lump hammer / saw.

It's a soil stack, so I presume that it will have a (healthy?) concentration of not-so-friendly bacteria inside it - that lot won't do you a lot of good.

I guess you'll be up a ladder for at least part of the job - falling of a ladder will kill you a lot quicker than breathing asbestos fibres.

Not all "specialist" asbestos contractors will do a satisfactory job - apart from the way they actually go about the work (with little consideration for the work at heights issue, I'd be willing to bet), it is not uncommon for them to treat the job casually "because it's only cement" - debris is commonly left on the customer's backyard.

If you desperately don't want to do it yourself, shop around - prices vary considerably. As previously mentioned, www.arca.org.uk is a good place to start. But must importantly if you go down this route, make sure that the "specialists" take it down in as whole a piece as possible, and absolutely do not leave any debris at all. I'd expect them to vacuum any fragments up with their hazardous waste vacuum cleaner - absolutely not your yardbrush.

All of the following only applies to the private individual - if you are doing this for reward (ie at work), the law is much more prohibitive).

If you did decide to do it yourself:-

1. where will the waste go? Civic amenities sites sometimes accept small amounts of domestic asbestos waste, which lessens the chance of it ending up being fly-tipped. Contact them to find out whether they will accept it, in what quantity, and how it needs to be packaged. Otherwise, you may need to pay a specialist to take away the neat pile you leave them at the end of your drive.

2. how do you get the waste to the waste site? You don't really want it in the back of your car, whether correctly packaged or not. A (covered) trailer would be better.

3. how do I not get contaminated? Rules - don't release dust. Don't breathe dust. Don't get dust on your clothes. Don't leave debris. Don't fall off the ladder! Don't get sh#t on you! Wear a respirator, disposable overalls (with the sleeves fully down AND the hood fully up). Wear as little as possible under these protective outer garments - all will be potentially-contaminated, and therefore is much better disposed of as contaminated than kept.

4. How do I get the stuff down? See rules above. Cut the brackets, NOT the asbestos cement. Ease the sections apart, DON'T cut them / smash them. If you do drop any bits, damp them down and pick them up, put them into the waste bag - DON'T brush or vacuum the waste. Usually, the cement sections would be wrapped in 1000 guage polythene, taped up with polycloth tape, them wrapped in polythene a second time.

5. When finished, hose the area down, washing any residual dust away. Strip off the protective clothing and respirator, and dispose as contaminated. Have a thorough shower.

For further advice, try http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/essentials/index.htm (pick any appropriate pdfs), for instance

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a14.pdf

These documents were written to try to ensure that tradespeople had guidance on how to do "low risk" tasks with asbestos - the principles apply just as equally to the DIYer.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:32 pm Reply with quote

The web's full of advice on this - eg http://www.darlington.gov.uk/Environment/Asbestos+cement.htm

In practice the sections often wiggle apart fairly easily, but the problems include:
1)You might drop it - completely different approach required after it's broken
2)You need it done fairly quickly, I imagine, so you can get its replacement working.
3) there's always likely to be a piece stuck in the wall, etc, which needs rough treatment to remove.

WOuld be interested to know what quotes you get. DO tell us!
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