Electric Oven

rglister · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 2:44 pm Post Subject: Electric Oven

If I install a separate SPUR for a fitted electric cooker, does it need an FCU in the kitchen?

breezer · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:04 pm Post Subject:

an electric cooker requires its own circuit and cooker connection unit, also 6mm cable which wont fit / too much for an fcu

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ban-all-sheds · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:33 pm Post Subject:

Possibly even 10mm² cable....

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fred hiscock · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:33 am Post Subject: Re: Electric Oven

I am fitting an electric hob and oven. I am providing a 6mm spur to each direct from the consumer unit. I have a suppliers spec (20 amp oven 30 amp for the hob) for the switches / breakers at either end of the cables. My question is how long can I make each spur. I guess I would like them about 25 metres linear each. Is this ok. How much further could I take them if necessary? Regards Fred

JayS · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:10 pm Post Subject:

rglister's title says oven...topic says cooker...

If it's a built in oven consider the following. What's the rating of the oven? If it's less then 3kW it'll do nicely in a 13A socket.

Assuming this is the case and that you are running a spur off the ring main I think a 13A FCU is to be recommended but it's not a requirement I believe.

If it's a cooker as breezer says.

Also this falls under part P as we all know...

Steve · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:59 pm Post Subject:

no it wont fall under part p, work started in nov04

Gary0 · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:49 pm Post Subject:

Umm ... just intrigued. So it's when the work started that's important for Part P ? Not when it finishes ? (Please, yes/no if possible, rather than link to part P, would be much appreciated. Thanks)

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ban-all-sheds · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:49 pm Post Subject: Re: Electric Oven

JayS wrote:

Also this falls under part P as we all know...

crafty1289 wrote:

no it wont fall under part p, work started in nov04

Ah - but was he replying to the latest addition?

fred hiscock wrote:

I am fitting an electric hob and oven. I am providing a 6mm spur to each direct from the consumer unit.

Those aren't spurs, they are circuits, and notifiable to LABC.

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I have a suppliers spec (20 amp oven 30 amp for the hob) for the switches / breakers at either end of the cables. My question is how long can I make each spur. I guess I would like them about 25 metres linear each. Is this ok. How much further could I take them if necessary? Regards Fred

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/Charts/VoltageDrop.html

Also, you need to read, and come to understand this: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Book/4.3.1.htm so that you can show LABC that you've done it properly. You'll also need to acquire the necessary test equipment.

No, but seriously - if you do plan to comply with the law, you will need to do it competently, even with a cooperative LABC who do what they are supposed to. If you've got one of the stroppy ones, you'll need to be on very firm ground if you are going to argue with them....

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ban-all-sheds · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:57 pm Post Subject:

Gary0 wrote:

Umm ... just intrigued. So it's when the work started that's important for Part P ? Not when it finishes ?

For electrical only work, it used to be, but that window has now closed. (April 05).

For general buildng work, the issue of whether or not compliance with Part P has to be added in can be determined from this:

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Gary0 · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:06 pm Post Subject:

Ah, thanks. Thought that sounded to good a loophole to have been overlooked

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JayS · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:16 am Post Subject:

crafty1289 wrote:

no it wont fall under part p, work started in nov04

Yes, you were able to start work before 1st of January 2005 and finish it before the 1st of April without having to bother with part P...but if it's not finished yet then it falls under part P...

ban-all-sheds, any circuits going into a kitchen would also be effected (as well as being notifiable to LABC) by part P I presume since they would be a fixed installation?

Learn to love part P...

ban-all-sheds · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:35 am Post Subject:

JayS wrote:

ban-all-sheds, any circuits going into a kitchen would also be effected (as well as being notifiable to LABC) by part P I presume since they would be a fixed installation?

Yup.

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