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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:35 pm Post Subject:
Drayton TRV4 valves
I have a mixture of Drayton TRV4 and Honeywell radiator valves on my heating system,and I have now had two TRV4 valves where the central pin that opens the valve,has come out a lot further,causing the valve to stay shut all the time(this seems to happen over the summer period when the heating is off).Anybody got any answers as to why or how to cure it or stop it happening to any more?
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:54 pm Post Subject:
Re: Drayton TRV4 valves
grassey wrote:
I have a mixture of Drayton TRV4 and Honeywell radiator valves on my heating system,and I have now had two TRV4 valves where the central pin that opens the valve,has come out a lot further,causing the valve to stay shut all the time(this seems to happen over the summer period when the heating is off).Anybody got any answers as to why or how to cure it or stop it happening to any more?
Am I right in thinking that you've removed the thermostatic head and can see the pin that operates the valve?
If so, and if that pin is at its maximum protrusion, then tapping the pin VERY gently with a hammer, gradually moving it, will free it off. If it got stuck because of a dirty system, then not only do you need to replace the valve but you need to flush the system and use a chemical inhibitor when you re-fill.
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:08 pm Post Subject:
Agile wrote:
I am not sure why you are suggesting that?
These TRVs stick during the summer when they stick DOWN in the OFF position.
No end of tapping them jently with a hammer will free them!
And before anyone suggests pulling them with pliars, doing that will just pull the pin out and leave the seat still jammed firmly down!
Doesn't anyone actually work on real heating systems? Perhaps its all these new NVQ2s with no practical experience?
Tony
I've had a couple that have been proper stuck and require replacement but 99 times out of 100 a couple of sharp pushes on the pin with the side of an adjustable spanner free 'em off no problem.....til next year anyway.
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:25 pm Post Subject:
Agile wrote:
I am not sure why you are suggesting that?
Well, incredibly, you're giving a good impression of being unsure, but the answer is in my posting, immediately after the word "if". Did you get up too early after the hour went back?
Agile wrote:
These TRVs stick during the summer when they stick DOWN in the OFF position.
Yup - some of them certainly do, which is what led to the creation of this topic. Talking of which, I've failed to find a single way in which your posting actually helped grassey.
Agile wrote:
No end of tapping them jently with a hammer will free them!
Maybe for some TRVs, but for most of them you're just plain wrong.
Agile wrote:
And before anyone suggests pulling them with pliars, doing that will just pull the pin out and leave the seat still jammed firmly down!
It seems that you're the first person to mention pulling it with pliars (sic.). Quite bizarre. Perhaps you should take those "pliars" and use them to remove the chip from your shoulder.
Agile wrote:
Doesn't anyone actually work on real heating systems? Perhaps its all these new NVQ2s with no practical experience?
Well I know I do, but I'm not so sure about you now. BTW I don't have an NVQ2, but I do know that the word "it's" has an apostrophe in it.
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:09 am Post Subject:
chrishutt wrote:
I see you've edited your posts to remove the errors I referred to. You're obviously a sensitive soul.
No, I'm just an obsessive pedant. Unfortunately, you believing that something is obvious is not the same as that thing actually being obvious. Never assume anything.
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:42 am Post Subject:
Maybe its just that all the ones I have been called to have already failed to respond to the owner tapping and pulling.
One drain that I failed to unblock was attempted by Dynorod who also failed which made me feel better.
Just like the odd drain that I go to that always seem to have had the rest of the world trying to unblock them first.
Also for the record, I do NOT see an NVQ2 as a prerequisite for a capable plumber in fact almost the opposite. Its just that all the newbees think they get an NVQ at the college and then they are a plumber and capable of everything.
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:54 pm Post Subject:
I'll meet you halfway Tony. I think it works out that all the ones that I go to are for existing customers, who already know that if I find the merest hint of a serration on the pin then I announce "rien ne va plus" and just change the valve.
(New customers don't know the rules of course, but they soon learn)
Regarding NVQ syndrome, I completely agree with you.
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:57 pm Post Subject:
[quote="Softus"] I announce "rien ne va plus" and just change the valve.
New customers don't know the rules of course, but they soon learn that you are an arrogant pedant, obsessed with your own importance. Better off staying in France, they`re all arrogant t*****s
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