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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:44 pm    Post Subject:
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Is it wise to run a double socket from the cooker spur to power a fridge and freezer? I'm guessing no but just thought i'd ask, cheers!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:10 pm    Post Subject:
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You're right, it's not wise if the cooker is still connected.

Can you not break into the ring circuit somewhere close by?

PS, for a fridge and freezer you're better off with 2 single sockets as opposed to one double
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:05 pm    Post Subject:
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I frown on this, but the regs say you can as long as you use the same size cable as the rest of the circuit, and it can take the additional load.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:36 pm    Post Subject:
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As SS has said, although most sparks frown on this practice the regs do allow it.

I frown on this practice for 2 reasons. The first is your cooker circuit is classed as "fixed equipment" so the circuit may have been designed to disconnect in 5 seconds under fault conditions. As soon as you add a socket the disconnection time must reduce to 0.4 seconds so without knowing more about the circuit it's hard to say if it will comply. In the context of this post it probably will but I would rather you had it checked first. If the cooker point already has a socket built in then it should be OK

The second reason. Although at the moment your sockets are for a fridge & freezer, depending on their location they may need to be RCCD protected and it's unlikely your cooker circuit is currently feed via an RCCD. If you add an RCCD to the cooker circuit you stand a good chance of loosing your frozen food because cookers are notorious for nuisance tripping RCCD's.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:52 am    Post Subject:
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Fair comment.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:30 pm    Post Subject:
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plus it's a nightmare trying to get 2 6mm˛'s or 2 10mm˛'s into the terminals on the back of a single socket...
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