what do you think to these new training courses ?

[amb172]

hi would just like to get some constructive feedback form some time served electricians ,

i am currently half way through a training programe that will earn me a 2382 17th edition regs installation, a eal vrq level 2 part p, and a 2392 test and inspection qual , honest and open opinions please on what standing these qualifications will provide me from an employment point of view , (good on tools etc) ,, have been told some employers tend to look down on "non apprentice style learning",, thanks

 

[ricicle]

Have you any practical experience. . There is no such thing as a 'part p qualification'.
You will probably earn apprentice rates until you are deemed competant.
Now is not a great time to look for a job in the construction/engineering industries.

 

[supergas]

what do you mean part p is not a qualification????

 

[scarypants]

what do you mean part p is not a qualification????

You can have training in part p, but register as competent.

 

[amb172]

part p is a guidance note as is part a , b , c , d , etc etc , the eal vrq certificate is an entrance level qual that incoporates and demands a certain level of knowledge concearning part p and other associated building regs,

although i do greatly understand the current squeeze on the building industry i must hold a positive veiw on this and look to learn as much as possible now whith one eye on the future , i do have installation experiance and would gladly work for an aprentice wage , i do plan on studying for the 2391-10 on completion of my current studies and understand the task of passing that,

i thank you for your opinion although not the most constructive ricicle

 

[ColJack]

Pert P is NOT a guidance note, it's part of the building regulations and is therefore LAW..

there are not "Part P" courses, there are courses in electrical installation and these come in varying flavours of complexity depending on what you want to do.
you don't need ANY qualifications to comply with part P of the building regulations.
you DO however need to have a certain level of qualification to register with one of the schemes that allows you to SELF certify the work you do, otherwise you have to get the building inspectors to certify it for you.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

part p is a guidance note as is part a , b , c , d , etc etc ,

Some light reading for you...

 

[amb172]

part p is a guidance note as is part a , b , c , d , etc etc ,

Some light reading for you...

thanks

 

[supergas]

i hear elecsa are the only ones that will let you register if all you have is part p

 

[Spark123]

You can't have "part p"
Part P is part of the building regs.

 

[kmeeres]

i hear elecsa are the only ones that will let you register if all you have is part p

I think that most ask for C&G BS 7671 so it depends on the part p course you do and the exam at the end.
The part p i did was only recognised by Elecsa at the time And possibly corgi but i do not do notifiable work anyway so not registering.

 

[Goldberg]

There is no such thing as a 'part p qualification'.

Of course there is - it's just slang for the Domestic Installer Scheme.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

True - but that doesn't mean that it's not an inaccurate term whose use should always be challenged.

 

[Goldberg]

Au contraire - that's exactly what it means.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

It only "means" it (i.e. it imparts an intended meaning) because of ignorance and improper thinking.

Someone can no more be "Part P", or "Part P qualified" than they can be Part A, Part B etc.

"Part P" is no more a qualification than Part M.

The fact that it is used that way, and that people know what is meant does not mean that it is not terminologically incorrect, and it does not mean that such use should be accepted.