ballcock sticks to flush unit

[mamaji]

Hi,

I changed my flush unit and now the ballcock arm sticks to the flush unit. The arm is made out of some iron.

Can the ballcock arm be adjusted? Or would I need to buy a new ballcock arm and fittings.

Thanks,
Mamaji

 

[seco services]

Bend it abit so it don't touch.
Is this a new flush unit or just a replacement ?

 

[mamaji]

Thanks for the quick response. I did try to bend the arm, but it seemed pretty solid - or maybe I need more protein

It's a replacement. Fits and works fine.

I'm not sure if the arm comes off? If so maybe I can try bending it in a wrench.

The toilet is 10 years old. Would buying a replacement ballcock unit give me the same problem?

 

[PetePlumb]

Change the ballcock. Put a Torbec in. Problem solved.

 

[seco services]

It's a replacement. Fits and works fine.

If it's a replacement didn't it hit the old one ?

I'm not sure if the arm comes off? If so maybe I can try bending it in a wrench.

The arms useally held on by a split pin.

The toilet is 10 years old. Would buying a replacement ballcock unit give me the same problem?

Well yes it'll be the same.

Can you not give us an internal pic of the cistern ?

 

[mamaji]

sorry novice alert !!

Never heard of a Torbec.

Is this the thing?
http://www.wickes.co.uk/opella-torb..._ggl_0006635&gclid=CJLkm5fYz7MCFW3MtAoda10Acg

Cheers

 

[seco services]

Yes

 

[mamaji]

It's a replacement. Fits and works fine.

If it's a replacement didn't it hit the old one ?
Nope - no issues with the original.

I'm not sure if the arm comes off? If so maybe I can try bending it in a wrench.

The arms useally held on by a split pin.
Will have a look and try.

The toilet is 10 years old. Would buying a replacement ballcock unit give me the same problem?

Well yes it'll be the same.


Can you not give us an internal pic of the cistern ?

I'll do that tomorrow morning, on the train back home at the mo.

Thanks

 

[seco services]

Ok

 

[mamaji]

Here is the photo. Not sure which URL I need so posting both. Hope you can view?
//www.diynot.com/network/mamaji/albums/

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Looking at the space and Torbec unit - It looks like it will not fit either. Any other options.

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Charnwood]

Blimey, 60 posts and still can't get it right.

Anyway, Mamaji. Take the syphon out and put it back at 180 degrees from how it is now, then fit a Fluidmaster inlet valve in place of the ball cock.

 

[mamaji]

Thanks Charnwood.

If I turn the syphon 180 degrees, then I cant pull the flush (no idea what the technical term is )
I've seen in some toilets that the flush handle on the outside can be moved from one side to the other. This one can't.

Is this the part?
http://www.wickes.co.uk/fluidmaster-float-valve-bottom-entry/invt/420072/?source=123_74

 

[PetePlumb]

Is it a side entry, or a bottom entry cistern? It's not really clear to see from the angle you have taken in that photo.

Taking out the syphon and rotating it 180 degrees won't work unless there is another hole on your cistern on the left hand side for the handle.

 

[JohnD]

The Torbeck is extremely small. There is a newer version out now which is bigger, and possibly has a longer life, also a version of the Fluidmaster which is available with a brass stem, rather than plastic, and is less easily damaged if you are clumsy with the spanner. I like the old Torbeck as shown, but they are prone to grit or dirt collecting inside, and need to be unscrewed and rinsed in clean water when this happens (usually after the water has been cut off and limescale has washed into the pipe). This is no trouble as long as you have a service valve nearby to turn the water off. I think my oldest one is about 24 years old now and still working fine.

You will find either the Torbeck or the Fluidmaster very much quieter than your old valve, for this reason I always use them now instead of the old type with a big round float.

If the syphone is very awkward, you can remove it and replace it with a Flapper http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/424925 valve, which takes up hardly any space and gives a quiet, powerful flush, or a modern Fluidmaster flushing valve, which you can often get in a set with the filling valve.

It is more work to change the flush, as you have to take the cistern off, and the fixing screws are probably rusted solid, unless the previous person was thoughtful enough to use stainless.

You will find the parts cheaper at Screwfix, eithe mail order, or collected from your nearest store. http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?fh_search=fluidmaster&fh_view_size=20

 

[mamaji]

Is it a side entry, or a bottom entry cistern? It's not really clear to see from the angle you have taken in that photo.

It's a bottom inlet entry

Taking out the syphon and rotating it 180 degrees won't work unless there is another hole on your cistern on the left hand side for the handle..

I don't have an option to change sides sadly, just have a right side handle