Time to scrap Trident.

[joe-90]

The reasons are :

We are a part of NATO with nuclear capability.
What that means is that if the US getts into a major kerfuffle with the Soviets and missiles get launched - then every major town and city in the UK would get vaporised. The same fate for France - but not the other European countries as they are not nuclear empowered. Brilliant. Well done. When you and your kids are just shadows on the pavement - do you really care about revenge?

Secondly, the most likely use of nuclear arms is by misunderstanding or technical glitch. Use it or lose it makes very itchy trigger fingers.

Thirdly, a Hiroshima sized bomb fits quite comfortably in a transit van. If terrorists got hold of such a weapon and detonated it in London, then who are you going to retaliate against with Trident? You can't nuke an ideology.

So you see, Trident is a useless and redundant weapon of the cold war.
It doesn't give you safety - it threatens your very existence.
Use the £100 billion saved for education (including the scrapping of faith schools). Beef up our police forces, protect our borders. Wadya reckon?

 

[sooey]

I'm with you all the way joe, but the yanks won't let us.

 

[joe-90]

I'm with you all the way joe, but the yanks won't let us.

I guess that's true mate. It gives a sort of triangulation for attack.

 

[Belboz]

YAACOC

 

[breadnbutter]

we need a defence,
the savings would not go to nhs,schools,ect it would just get swollowed up somewere else.

whats wrong whith faith schools.

 

[joe-90]

Who are you protecting yourself against? And faith schools breed terrorists.

 

[breadnbutter]

we need independent defence,did the u.s.a back us up in the falklands, what if we get a threat from another country,not russia, and usa backs away,what then. would not trust the states, with obama at the seat.

they don't need faith schools they radicalise in the prisons,and mosques,internet.

 

[joe-90]

How many countries have nukes that could reach us? We are at risk from terror organisations, and home grown terrorists. What use is Trident there?

If the Muslims aren't with us - then they are against us. Tell them to declare their allegiance to the UK, tell them to join our armed forces to protect their home. If they won't, then I can see the time when internment comes back. If you aren't with us - we want you out of the way.

 

[Dextraneous]

I can see the need for some nuclear weaponry, but not the number we currently have. The 100billion could be reduced significantly.

 

[sooey]

Internment no good, too many by far.

 

[jockscott]

Might as well give up on defence altogether then Joe? Do away with the forces... Just think of the money we'll save.

 

[sooey]

What does YAACOC mean btw ?

 

[joe-90]

Might as well give up on defence altogether then Joe? Do away with the forces... Just think of the money we'll save.

It's just the reverse of that. £100 billion can buy a lot of the type of protection that is relevant to a modern world. Trident means that in the case of all out war - we all get vaporised. We are a nuclear target. Use it or lose it. The Russians have your location programmed into their missiles right now.

 

[breadnbutter]

why would the government spend billions on trident if they did not need it, i think they know a bit more about it , than we do,having intelligence and advice from the armed forces.

thing is ,if they scraped it,would the cash go to wear its needed,nhs,scools ect
i doubt it.

 

[joe-90]

Use your own brain. Who would you use it against?