Real life is never off-topic.Gone a little bit off topic, no?
Real life is never off-topic.Gone a little bit off topic, no?
He got 'straight answers' in both the first and second responses to his OP back on page 1, but, unfortunately, they were rather contradictory!But did the op actually get a straight answer to his question?
That's because the first reply was just plain wrong.what was brilliant is getting 2 opposed answers right off the bat
It's just the tiny bit which connects your feet and the ground and/or your body part and the live bit.if water is so useless how does it make a wet human in a bathroom waaay more susceptible to electric shock/ death?
Yes, it does seem a bit perverse - but I think that, despite intuition, one is probably not that much less likely to be electrocuted when dry and away from a bathroom!....and I've learned about how uselessly conductive water in a pipe is, which is rather perverse when one considers that if water is so useless how does it make a wet human in a bathroom waaay more susceptible to electric shock/ death?.
I can't speak for others, but I think that there are far more "simultaneously touchable metallic parts that are connected to the electrical installation" in my kitchen, utility room and other places than in my bathroom.Also it's not necessarily the water that's the whole risk, it's also the amount of metallic parts that may be connected to the electrical installation that are simultaneously touchable ....
Yes, that is a potential issue - although there are plenty of people who often do not wear shoes (or necessarily even socks) in any room of their house.... and the fact that you're likely to not have shoes or much else on your body.
That is indeed a valid observation and I assume you weren't trying to contradict or clarify my point in any way.I can't speak for others, but I think that there are far more "simultaneously touchable metallic parts that are connected to the electrical installation" in my kitchen, utility room and other places than in my bathroom.
Not contradicting, but what you wrote could be taken to imply that there are more "simultaneously touchable metallic parts that are connected to the electrical installation" in a bathroom than elsewhere - whereas, as I said, the opposite is the case in my house (and probably many others). In fact, in a plastic-plumbed house, I imagine that there are often no such "simultaneously touchable parts" at all.That is indeed a valid observation and I assume you weren't trying to contradict or clarify my point in any way.
I'm not so sure about that, given that 'they' have now deemed supplementary bonding unnecessary everywhere other than (sometimes) bathrooms. Indeed, if I'm not mistaken, if an installation is fully compliant with current regs, then it will inevitably qualify for omission of SB in bathrooms.In fact given the previous edition bonding requirements, it probably strengthens my point!
I can't disagree with that. However, I would still be interested to know whether there are more electric shocks in bathrooms than in other rooms/locations (and, frankly, I personally doubt that there are) In my en-suite, for example, about the only way I can think of whereby I could possibly get an electric shock, even if I wanted to, would be by plugging myself in to both sides of an ('isolated') shaver socket!My point being that the whole risk is made up of several factors, not just the conductivity of water.
If you check the part you quoted I actually said that it merely adds to the risk posed by the water (and nakedness.)but what you wrote could be taken to imply that there are more "simultaneously touchable metallic parts that are connected to the electrical installation" in a bathroom than elsewhere
I know that, but I still think what you wrote could be taken to imply that it ("the amount of metallic parts ...") was adding more risk in bathrooms than elsewhere. Anyway, I now know that such was not your intention.If you check the part you quoted I actually said that it merely adds to the risk posed by the water (and nakedness.)
Fair enough but, as I said, in a house with all-plastic plumbing (not mine), there is probably not going to be any relevant 'touchable metal' in a bathroom, is there? In contrast, it's all over the place in a kitchen, utility room workshop etc.Actually despite me not saying it originally, from your example, it's clear the touchable metal is in fact creating the risk, and merely the impact is affected by the water and nakedness.
In that case your house is safe without any special mitigation measures.Fair enough but, as I said, in a house with all-plastic plumbing (not mine), there is probably not going to be any relevant 'touchable metal' in a bathroom, is there? In contrast, it's all over the place in a kitchen, utility room workshop etc.
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