P&O cancels services and tells ships to stay in port

[Notch7]

Yep. Cheaper workers. That's what was ****ing up the wages for many trades. Great if you want a cheap wall built but not so great if you've spent your life in a trade and found yourself priced out of the market because you're not prepared to live away from home and sleep ten to a room.

One of my neighbours has just gone back into the toshing game. He gave up a few years ago when he was expected to work 8 till 6 for £80 a day in London because the Eastern Europeans were doing it. Dunno what he's getting now but it must be worth his while. He's home by 5.00 most days.

Ive never noticed any reduction in wages of trades around here, ever.

 

[fillyboy]

He's home by 5.00 most days.

**** me I hope he's charging overtime.

 

[securespark]

Toshing?

Stealing copper from ships' hulls ot scavenging from the sewers?

 

[JohnD]

"By happenstance, UK prime minister Boris Johnson this week visited the United Arab Emirates, of which Dubai is a member, to lobby for increases in oil and gas production. The actions of P&O Ferries are out of kilter with his government’s insistence that employers should be prepared to pay UK workers higher wages as a “Brexit dividend”.

Few UK managers are old enough to have any experience of pay bargaining during a period of sustained wage inflation. If they are wondering how to do it, P&O Ferries provides them with a clear example: not like this."

FT.com

 

[motorbiking]

rather ironic -they've sacked British workers and replaced them with Eastern European workers

a brexit benefit I suppose

I'm assuming the French crews were also let go in the same way?

 

[Mottie]

Toshing?

Stealing copper from ships' hulls ot scavenging from the sewers?

Painting. My dad used to be a tosher. Have you never heard of it? None of your careful cutting in, just slap it on the walls as quick as you can.

 

[Mottie]

**** me I hope he's charging overtime.

I think he works two and a half hours away.

 

[Mottie]

Ive never noticed any reduction in wages of trades around here, ever.

Where exactly is 'round here'? Unless they are farm workers, the majority of cheap imported workers tend to be based in the big cities where the majority of building work is taking place.

 

[motorbiking]

One person P&O should have sacked was the HR director. The redundancies (if as reported) are not lawful. As the government claims it was not notified. That will mean each worker will be entitled to an additional 45 days pay (+45 award).
https://www.gov.uk/staff-redundant/redundancy-consultations

 

[Notch7]

Where exactly is 'round here'? Unless they are farm workers, the majority of cheap imported workers tend to be based in the big cities where the majority of building work is taking place.

Around here is the South East, Sussex, Surrey, Kent


I suppose you are claiming that capitalism, which you’ve spent your life voting for, doesn’t work. You know those big Tory supporting house building firms pay the lowest wages they can get away with.

by the way construction wages were depressed somewhat back in early 2000s but overall FOM has had very little effect on British wages - but hey, you voted Brexit, you can’t admit you were conned so you keep repeating the tropes till the day you die.

 

[motorbiking]

Impossible to find any decent trades with less than 6 months lead on availability (in Surrey). Supply and demand drive prices/wages. You will never find any company willing to pay the maximum it can.

 

[JP_]

Very sad news, demise of a great company (cruised on SS Canberra a few times). But this made me laugh (at farage, not the staff).

Not really sure what leaving the eu is to do with it, but pretty sure nobody considered the actions of a Dubai business owner when voting.

 

[Lower]

One person P&O should have sacked was the HR director. The redundancies (if as reported) are not lawful. As the government claims it was not notified. That will mean each worker will be entitled to an additional 45 days pay.
https://www.gov.uk/staff-redundant/redundancy-consultations

I believe the redundant staff count as seafarers and fall under different legislation to normal workers.

 

[motorbiking]

Indeed - as crazy as saying it was due to Brexit.

 

[motorbiking]

I believe the redundant staff count as seafarers and fall under different legislation to normal workers.

P&O are not claiming insolvency.

I'm not sure Wales online is the best source of legal expertise... but my opinion seems to be mirrored by those with more specialist expertise.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/po-shock-mass-redundancy-legal-23422275

It is worth noting that P&O are claiming to be offering enhanced severance which means they can do as they like if you accept the terms. Given how this was communicated, those offers will certainly have to increase.