Billionaire, morally defensible?

[Notch7]

Mm... I'm sure some will have been created as a result of brexit but that would be to replace the tens of thousands of fake jobs in Brussels. Replacing Euro administrators with local ones to administer the mountains of pointless legislation that mostly emanated from the EU.

A lot of the fake jobs in the public sector are linked to DEI, environmental nonsense, health and safety, and other bloated areas.

The British Empire was run by an administration less than 1% the size of what we now have.

If they all started working from home and getting nothing done we wouldn't notice. Oh wait... that is what's happening. And now they're threatening to go on strike because they believe they're overworked by having to do a 5 day week... from home... doing meaningless work that produces nothing socially or economically useful.

Needs cutting in half, all quangos abolished, and stupid devolved administrations deleted, including the one in London. All run by total lemons.

I note Berty can’t provide any examples of these “fake jobs”

 

[denso13]

Anyone who has anything to do with advising on Equality, Diversity & Inclusion. This should never be a job for one person, rather a forum of stakeholders and HR should be perfectly capable of running the stats.

But in the public sector, it seems every public body has one from the council to plod. Thats at least 200 non-jobs

Then we have the Woke enforcers employed to check that all NHS staff include their pronouns in emails and avoid gender assuming medical terminology. They also write the Woke policy and source outside consultants (not medical consultants) from "experts" like stonewall who have self appointed themselves literally as the Gay police. 50+

Anyone working on 25 year plans. Thats another 100.

The people who install stupid road blocks LTNs as trials and then remove them 6 months later because residents would quite like to leave their homes occasionally. At least 10 people per local authority could be freed up.

That's just a sensationalist rant which isn't even truthful. An opinion full of holes.

 

[JonathanM]

So, I was just looking again at the breakdown I posted yesterday of people who are not in the workforce, and cross referencing it with some other figures from the DWP. I realised that the number of people claiming out of work benefits is actually three million fewer than in the 1990s.

 

[Notch7]

So, I was just looking again at the breakdown I posted yesterday of people who are not in the workforce, and cross referencing it with some other figures from the DWP. I realised that the number of people claiming out of work benefits is actually three million fewer than in the 1990s.

You are posting facts

That won’t sink in with people who have been told to blame foreigners and the poor

This is what Betty has been brainwashed to believe:

 

[Mottie]

Donating to charity is not the solution

Reversing the ever increasing shift from the poor to the rich requires government intervention.

The last 30+ years has seen wealth decline in the lower and middle earners and a huge rise in the top earners.

4.8m people suffering food poverty is not right in the world's 6th richest country

Say Notch, did you ever get around to counting how many unused bedrooms you have in your house that you could let a poor, homeless, starving person move in to?

 

[fillyboy]

So, I was just looking again at the breakdown I posted yesterday of people who are not in the workforce, and cross referencing it with some other figures from the DWP. I realised that the number of people claiming out of work benefits is actually three million fewer than in the 1990s.

What about 'in work' benefits?

 

[Mottie]

In 1948 we were a much poorer country than we are now. But we built the NHS. We built schools, hospitals, roads, railways, sewage works, generation stations, the National Grid. And homes.

Today, instead of building, those National assets have been flogged off and have gone to rack and ruin. Our sewers overflow and our schools crumble. Our roads are potholed. We have insufficient homes. Our railways are a disgrace.

It is not a lack of wealth. It is a lack of will.

It’s a glut of non-working, poncing immigrants and asylum seekers started by Blair and his lot. His wife started the trend of milking the legal aid in defence of them too. We didn’t have many of those in 1948.

 

[JonathanM]

What about 'in work' benefits?

Is that your way of saying that you agree with my figures?

 

[JonathanM]

It’s a glut of non-working, poncing immigrants and asylum seekers started by Blair and his lot.

There's three million fewer non-working than before Blair came to power.

 

[Mottie]

There's three million fewer non-working than before Blair came to power.

Thats because they weren’t being encouraged to come here until Blair started it.

 

[Notch7]

Say Notch, did you ever get around to counting how many unused bedrooms you have in your house that you could let a poor, homeless, starving person move in to?

poverty requires government led solutions.

 

[Notch7]

It’s a glut of non-working, poncing immigrants and asylum seekers started by Blair and his lot

Mottie proudly shows how deeply brainwashed he is

 

[Mottie]

poverty requires government led solutions.

Okay. How did you fare in that government led solution to house displaced Ukrainians - have any staying over at yours for six months or did the government make it too hard for you?

Notch - NIMBY of the highest order. Full of ideas of what others should do.

 

[fillyboy]

Is that your way of saying that you agree with my figures?

Of course I agree with your figures, just saying that in terms of the scale of benefit paid, they don't show the full picture. Three million less people claiming out of work benefits might suggest the benefits bill is accordingly lower, I don't believe it is.

 

[Notch7]

Okay. How did you fare in that government led solution to house displaced Ukrainians - have any staying over at yours for six months or did the government make it too hard for you?

Notch - NIMBY of the highest order. Full of ideas of what others should do.

Mottie, Ukrainians have nothing to do with poverty in the U.K.

The high level of poverty in this country is due to 40 years of neo liberal policies transferring money from poor to rich.

And the solution must be government led.


I am sorry you keep being wrong, how embarrassing for you

Here is some evidence for you, so you can stop being wrong:

Britain’s rich are living in a golden era. Labour should not be scared to end it | Andy Beckett

The wealthy elite’s dominance of our impoverished society is often seen as inevitable, even natural – but their spell can be broken, says Guardian columnist Andy Beckett

www.theguardian.com

Britain and the US are poor societies with some very rich people

When it comes to average household incomes, the UK may soon need to ask migrant labourers to take a pay cut

www.ft.com

How the U.K. Became One of the Poorest Countries in Western Europe

Britain chose finance over industry, austerity over investment, and a closed economy over openness to the world.

www.theatlantic.com

The Living Standards Audit 2022 • Resolution Foundation

www.resolutionfoundation.org

The Scale of Economic Inequality in the UK | The Equality Trust

The UK has the 7th most unequal incomes of 30 countries in the developed world, but is about average in terms of wealth inequality. While the top fifth have nearly 50% of the country's income and 60% of the country's wealth, the bottom fifth have only 4% of the income and only 1% of the wealth.

equalitytrust.org.uk