1st 17th ed board

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Chris, why use the 'wiring colours to two versions' sticker then handwrite 'harmonised' on it?
If all cabling is of harmonised colours then no sticker is needed. It looks a little untidy.

Fairplay, it's a bad habit- "Have sticker, use sticker" sort of thing.

Is there a sticker that states "This board uses 100% harmonised colours" :LOL:
 
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I am now using one of these ways for the 'fuseboard' cupboard light where possible - clipped or run in trunking - means that even if both rcd's go, the customer can still see the fuse board!
Wouldn't an emergency luminaire be better? Wouldn't need a separate way, and he'd also be able to see if the MCB tripped.

You don't even need a fancy one - just a regular non-maintained with the switch wired upside down.
 
Is there a sticker that states "This board uses 100% harmonised colours" :LOL:

Have a look RF's post on Page 2 though it'll be out of date on the 1st July.
I'm not sure why a sticker for that purpose would be needed though.
 
Does the "Danger - 240 Volts" sticker come as standard on the 17th C.U.s or have you added it?
Is a new requirement?
 
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Have you got to upgrade the tails to 25mm when doing a board change ?

Nice job there Chri5. Cant see your main bonding though. :D
 
25mm2 tails regardless for me.

Looks like a pretty nice install (customer demands noted).

It is nice to see prime examples of electrical installation on this site, when we see so many botched installs done by accredited sparks. Thats my 2p worth anyway.

This post shows the difference between aspirations of the spark and customer demands.
 
Sorry can't agree with posts saying its a neat job. Not the worst I have seen, and better than my first attempts at a CU. Sounds patronising I know, but more careful consideration of where cables need to be presented in relation to the desired MCBs would have made for a much neater cabling. As you have presented the cables from the rear, and have built the CU proud on a board this should be relatively easy, as lots of space to bring cables in at the right places, neatly formed and aligned, all sheaths stripped uniformly etc..
 
Equitum- I never said it was perfect and I have no issue with your critic.

Being defensive I would add that the down time allowed was limited and since there were chest freezers, fridges and a fully active broad of 4 kids what you see represents a quick mornings work.
There are suitable make off loops behind the box for each cable, about 300mm for each- these loops do tend to congest the area and prevent perfect placement off each cable. Ascetics over practicality, I'd go for practicality ever time.

As an ex Telecoms fitter I agree that looming in the cables makes for a neater job, but when push comes to shove time constraints don't always allow for the perfection you describe.

Do me a favour and when you next complete a CU to the 17th (this was my 1st 17th board, even if I have done 100's to 16th) post up your pictures of the perfection you work to.

Educate me :D
 
Equitum- I never said it was perfect and I have no issue with your critic.

No you didn't, and I never said you did.

Being defensive I would add that the down time allowed was limited and since there were chest freezers, fridges and a fully active broad of 4 kids what you see represents a quick mornings work.
There are suitable make off loops behind the box for each cable, about 300mm for each- these loops do tend to congest the area and prevent perfect placement off each cable. Ascetics over practicality, I'd go for practicality ever time.

Freezers take a good 12 hours or more to defrost to any dangerous level provided you keep the door shut.

Cant see any need to leave 300mm of cable behind the board.

As an ex Telecoms fitter I agree that looming in the cables makes for a neater job, but when push comes to shove time constraints don't always allow for the perfection you describe.

Do me a favour and when you next complete a CU to the 17th (this was my 1st 17th board, even if I have done 100's to 16th) post up your pictures of the perfection you work to.

Educate me :D

Ex telecomm engineer too ! I will post my next 17th board, got one end of the week. But I never would, or have said my work is perfection !
 
Can I join in?

I've got a rewireable CU to swap out for a 17th edition board on saturday.

Sadly it is not an all RCBO board due to the cost implications which the client did not want, but he was happy to go with a dual RCD board.

We will see how it goes :LOL:
 
making sure there was an RCBO for the smoke detection on the direct rail.


Why was this necessary?

The circuit supplying the smoke and heat alarms should preferably not be protected by an RCD unless one is required for reasons of
electrical safety, then either the RCD should serve only the circuit supplying the smoke or heat alarms or the RCD protection of the
fire alarm system should operate independently of any RCD protection for circuits supplying socket-outlets or portable equipment.

http://www2.theiet.org/Publish/Wire...r_wiring_matters_fire_alarms_in_dwellings.pdf
 
making sure there was an RCBO for the smoke detection on the direct rail.


Why was this necessary?

Found this:

"The smoke alarm circuit should preferably not be protected by any residual current device (rcd). However if electrical safety requires the use of a rcd, either:
- the smoke alarm circuit should be protected by a single rcd which serves no other circuit; or
- the rcd protection of a smoke alarm circuit should operate independently of any rcd protection for circuits supplying socket?outlets or portable equipment."

Here - http://www2.theiet.org/Publish/Wire..._matters_fire_alarms_in_dwellings.pdf[/QUOTE]


Yeah that's what I had. From the elctricians guide to the building regs book.

So did the electrical installation require RCD for that circuit? If so, how come?
 

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