Cost of Solar PV panels installation
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That's easy to say on an internet forum.
This is an excerpt from Wikipedia(!)
As of 2011, feed-in tariff policies have been enacted in over 50 countries, including in Algeria, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, China, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iran, Republic of Ireland, Israel, Italy, Kenya, the Republic of Korea, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Switzerland, Tanzania, Thailand, Turkey
There doesn't seem to be any history of FiT being reversed contractually, here is the link;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed-in_tariff
But perhaps I am underestimating you, could you enlighten us?
This is an excerpt from Wikipedia(!)
As of 2011, feed-in tariff policies have been enacted in over 50 countries, including in Algeria, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, China, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iran, Republic of Ireland, Israel, Italy, Kenya, the Republic of Korea, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Switzerland, Tanzania, Thailand, Turkey
There doesn't seem to be any history of FiT being reversed contractually, here is the link;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed-in_tariff
But perhaps I am underestimating you, could you enlighten us?
What I meant was that the Government is free to pass any new legislation it wishes, at any time, so it could pass legislation to cancel all FIT contracts.
No previous legislation could prevent that because no previous laws are allowed to impinge on the freedom of Parliament.
Yes - they might face legal challenges, but again it is not easy for the courts to frustrate the will of Parliament.
No previous legislation could prevent that because no previous laws are allowed to impinge on the freedom of Parliament.
Yes - they might face legal challenges, but again it is not easy for the courts to frustrate the will of Parliament.
http://www.solarserver.com/solar-ma...in-tariff-sparks-solar-industry-response.html
Not just Spain, BAN, but Australia too:
http://www.theherald.com.au/blogs/jeff-corbett/solar-dishonesty/2164564.aspx
http://www.theherald.com.au/blogs/jeff-corbett/solar-dishonesty/2164564.aspx
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Those examples make interesting reading.
The Spanish newspage did not go into any detail about what was being cut and to whom, I think it may refer to large scale PV on commercial projects.
The Australian example was also not clear; the journalist who installed the panels only to find he was not going to get a FiT also made a reference to the fact that he may have been a bit late. In other words, he may have missed the boat.
Look, i am not trying to justify the social side of this, And i don't believe in global warming. The elephant in the room is overpopulation, the rest is all fiddling while Rome burns.
But we have a business to run, you guys fit 100s of halogen downlighters, i fit boiler systems for water intensive shower users.
I see Solar PV as the first energy saving product where a customer WILL get their investment back. it won't make a positive difference to the World in real terms, but then our elected politicians arent going to do that either.
The Spanish newspage did not go into any detail about what was being cut and to whom, I think it may refer to large scale PV on commercial projects.
The Australian example was also not clear; the journalist who installed the panels only to find he was not going to get a FiT also made a reference to the fact that he may have been a bit late. In other words, he may have missed the boat.
Look, i am not trying to justify the social side of this, And i don't believe in global warming. The elephant in the room is overpopulation, the rest is all fiddling while Rome burns.
But we have a business to run, you guys fit 100s of halogen downlighters, i fit boiler systems for water intensive shower users.
I see Solar PV as the first energy saving product where a customer WILL get their investment back. it won't make a positive difference to the World in real terms, but then our elected politicians arent going to do that either.
Then by definition there is absolutely no point in trying to discuss anything with you which requires you to have intelligence or scientific awareness.
Goodbye.
Really? And I thought the extent that mankind is affecting the climate was a still far from absolutely determined by the scientific community at present. If someone has theories and evidence that gives some weight to them, even if they are then later proved wrong, then that is still a scientific process.
Rebuking someones viewpoint with the cry of "thats not scientific" without explaining why that should be is not helpful
He said nothing about mankind's influence on global warming.
He said he doesn't believe in it.
No doubt he doesn't believe in ice-ages, volcanoes or earthquakes either.
He said he doesn't believe in it.
No doubt he doesn't believe in ice-ages, volcanoes or earthquakes either.
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And when that happens our lives will have changed beyond recognition.
The world's population will be a lot smaller - with no oil for fertilisers food production will plummet even without the assistance of global warming.
There is absolutely no way that we will be able to continue anything like our current way of life with only renewable energy sources. And the loss of oil will probably also mean the loss of infrastructure to manufacture and service solar PV panels and the loss of infrastructure to distribute the power.
Fingers crossed for fusion then..
a) I can't produce my own, not economically, and not to meet my demand cycle.
b) I don't want to be paying companies who make massive profits even more so that they can buy pitifully useless amounts of electricity at stupidly high prices.
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And did Bentleys get better because governments made cyclists pay more for their bikes so that the purchase of Bentleys could be subsidised?
Or did it happen because car makers began to compete with each other to make their products better and cheaper?
And even if we do manage to develop solar panels which are so efficient that we can cover the roofs of houses with small fixed orientation ones that will generate 10's of kW in the dark, how will that help to replace all the other uses of oil?
Or did it happen because car makers began to compete with each other to make their products better and cheaper?
And even if we do manage to develop solar panels which are so efficient that we can cover the roofs of houses with small fixed orientation ones that will generate 10's of kW in the dark, how will that help to replace all the other uses of oil?
Possibly being the important word there.
Nuclear generated power tends to be reliable and does not pollute while it is being generated.
As you point out, all things improve given time and experience and the same is happening in the nuclear energy industry.
But can you produce and store enough when it possible to produce for the time when you cannot produce. PV works in daylight, at night is when you need power for lights. Wind turbines create power when the wind blows. They do not generate on days when it is bitterly cold and there is no wind. Neither do they generate when the wind is too strong ( they shut down for safety reasons ) or when there is any risk of ice forming on the blades.
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