Big_Spark said:
Reread my previous posts and you will see that I have simple said that this is what I have been told.
I hardly need to re-read them, but I have anyway, and have found such gems as these:
Big_Spark said:
securespark said:
You are allowed to use your mobile hand held in an emergency.
I have no idea to the phone question, I would
assume no.
Big_Spark said:
Softus, almost EVERYTHING is an arrestable offence these days.. ask a Policeman.
So, no mention of you being "told" things in those examples.
As for when the PACE Act was changed, I don't really give a stuff.
Clearly - but I wonder if that is merely because it would undermine your ludicrous and paranoid claims that the change towards a Police State (sic.) is recent, and sudden, and all-encompassing.
I love nthe way you grudgingly accept that my comments earlier are right, then you go on to say they are wrong.
I don't begrudge you being right, but it's a rare thing to encounter. I was making the point, perhaps too subtly for you, that even when you are right it is tenuous, at best. I was giving you the benefit of the massive doubt that you were in anything other that accidentally correct.
I went on to point out that you were wrong, because, well, because you were wrong.
Simply admit that in theory it is possible for a Police Offcier to arrest you for anything that constitutes and offence as he can simply "interpret" the PACE Act to suit the circumstances if he/she is so inclined.
How can you even propose such a "theory" when the PACE code is so clearly written?
To remind you:
The Government said:
Necessity criteria
2.4 The power of arrest is only exercisable if the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that it is necessary to arrest the person. The criteria for what may constitute necessity are set out in paragraph 2.9.
Big_Spark said:
As fo the giving of your identity, it used to be a simple matter to simply ask the officer stopping you if they thought you had committed an offence, if they said NO, then you could go on your way. However now that is clearly not an option under this version of PACE, and to refuse to reveal who you are is arrestable, I dare say it changed in the last few years, probably when they updated it to account for the newer offences covered in the Terrorism Act.
I dare say that you are right, i.e. that there has been a change in PACE, but this reveals what I thought was the case, which is that you don't
know.
And as for your driving claims, the relevance of which some people have challenged, they are wholly relevant because they show you to be a liar.
Being a credible forum member is very simple, but it seems to be a challenge for you. If you state things as fact then they aren't, then you're wrong. And the more vociferously you state them, the more wrong you are. If you make up things and pretend that they have happened, then you are a liar. And the more grandiose the claims, and the more times that you assert their verity, the bigger the liar you are.