Do extensions need PP if erected before 1st July 1948

[tnarg999]

I'm looking at buying a property built c1900. It has 2 extensions on it for a sitting room and a dining room, but it's not clear when they were built. I phoned local planning and they only had planning for a garage in 1968.

I expect all of this will come out in conveyancing, but before I offer and instruct a solicitor, does anyone know if extensions built prior to 1st July 1948 need planning? (I am hoping the answer is no, and they were indeed built prior to 1948, otherwise it looks like a no go as they don't have planning)

Thanks

 

[jeds]

It wouldn't make any difference either way because any extension older than 4 years is immune from planning enforcement.

 

[tnarg999]

Thanks Jeds; I had no idea about the 4 year rule.

 

[tnarg999]

Just as a follow up, and hypothetically speaking... If you lived in the sticks with few neighbours, few passing planning officers, and you put up an extension that should have planning, but doesn't...after 4 years of no one noticing, does this means no enforcement can be taken? I am in no way condoning that type of action, it just seems a bit strange Maybe the searches would reveal an unlawfull extension but too old to be subject of an enforcement order?

Thanks

 

[jeds]

Just as a follow up, and hypothetically speaking... If you lived in the sticks with few neighbours, few passing planning officers, and you put up an extension that should have planning, but doesn't...after 4 years of no one noticing, does this means no enforcement can be taken?

Yes.

I am in no way condoning that type of action,

Perish the thought.

it just seems a bit strange

Strange but true.

Maybe the searches would reveal an unlawfull extension but too old to be subject of an enforcement order?

Thanks

 

[^woody^]

There are several proviso's to the four year rule

There are precedent cases where the development would not be deemed lawful after four years where there had been deliberate deception, dishonesty or subterfuge. This will also be dealt with in the new Localism Act

There is also the issue of whether the ten year rule applies instead

So its not always a straightforward case of being scott-free after four years

 

[^woody^]

extensions built prior to 1st July 1948 need planning?

The modern planning system started in 1948 so its not just the extensions but the house they are attached to that do not require any record of approval

 

[handyman77]

Remember this......
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-Tudor-castle-tried-hide-40ft-hay-bales.html

 

[FresnoBob]

Remember this......
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-Tudor-castle-tried-hide-40ft-hay-bales.html

That thing is still standing ain't it? More court appeals or something?

 

[handyman77]

Id be apealling aswell if i had gone to all that trouble! Youd have thought hed had been a bit more subtle, i mean a castle.... Should have atleast started off witha stately home

 

[handyman77]

Id be apealling aswell if i had gone to all that trouble! Youd have thought hed had been a bit more subtle, i mean a castle.... Should have atleast started off witha stately home

 

[handyman77]

Id be apealling aswell if i had gone to all that trouble! Youd have thought hed had been a bit more subtle, i mean a castle.... Should have atleast started off witha stately home

 

[handyman77]

Id be apealling aswell if i had gone to all that trouble! Youd have thought hed had been a bit more subtle, i mean a castle.... Should have atleast started off witha stately home