EU firms refuse UK deliveries over Brexit tax changes

[SirGalahad]

It begins.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721

Some specialist online retailers in various EU countries have said they will no longer deliver to UK addresses because of tax changes due to Brexit.

Bicycle part firm Dutch Bike Bits said from now on, it would ship to every country in the world except the UK.

"We are forced by British policy to stop dealing with British customers," it said on its website.

Another firm, Belgium-based Beer On Web, said it was now shunning the UK "due to the new Brexit measures".

The companies are angry because they now face higher costs and increased bureaucracy in order to comply with UK tax authorities.

 

[Mottie]

Well there’s an opportunity for a British manufacturer to start making Dutch bike bits.

 

[Bodd]

See if said all slong it would hurt them as much as us...

Let's buy British beer and make our own bike parts....

 

[ReganAndCarter]

See if said all slong it would hurt them as much as us...

Let's huy British beer and makevouf own nike parts....

Have you just bought yourself a British keyboard?

Or was that an attempt at Dutch?

 

[Bodd]

Have you just bought yourself a British keyboard?

Or was that an attemot at Dutch?

I've got one of those attemot Dutch ones...

 

[sxturbo]

there is a way round it, and that is to sell via a market place website that has roots in the UK, so Amazon and ebay, or even wayfair could offer these specialist companies a route into the UK market place.

its just whether the business case for UK selling is worth their time and effort, i'm sure if they were doing 10's of thousands or even 100's of thousands they would make the effort.

That being said the new policy is a bit stupid, it should be the old way of doing it where the delivering agent (dhl/royal mail etc ) pay the import tax on the item and they don't release the item to the buyer in the UK until they have been re-imbursed + there usual 10% handling fee.

 

[SirGalahad]

there is a way round it, and that is to sell via a market place website that has roots in the UK, so Amazon and ebay, or even wayfair could offer these specialist companies a route into the UK market place.

its just whether the business case for UK selling is worth their time and effort, i'm sure if they were doing 10's of thousands or even 100's of thousands they would make the effort.

That being said the new policy is a bit stupid, it should be the old way of doing it where the delivering agent (dhl/royal mail etc ) pay the import tax on the item and they don't release the item to the buyer in the UK until they have been re-imbursed + there usual 10% handling fee.

So they have to pay the marketplace their cut and still have to get the goods across the border to the UK with added costs.



Amazon had made it clear that for EU fulfillment will require goods to be based in the EU. So that's two times the cost now - one for your goods in Amazon UK FBA and one more for them to be in Amazon FBA in the EU.

4D chess lads.

 

[SirGalahad]

Well there’s an opportunity for a British manufacturer to start making Dutch bike bits.

Oh Mottie and with the added costs of legal services not being recognised the costs of licensing also went up.

This will be fun.

 

[SirGalahad]

See if said all slong it would hurt them as much as us...

Let's buy British beer and make our own bike parts....

Always that chestnut. So no interest in selling abroad? Our domestic market just went from 500m to 65m.

 

[sxturbo]

So they have to pay the marketplace their cut and still have to get the goods across the border to the UK with added costs.



Amazon had made it clear that for EU fulfillment will require goods to be based in the EU. So that's two times the cost now - one for your goods in Amazon UK FBA and one more for them to be in Amazon FBA in the EU.

4D chess lads.

i'm just saying its a way round it, obviously it will cost the end user more as any additional costs will be passed to the consumer.

do you mean for the goods to be fulfilled by amazon the goods have to be available at amazon eu warehouses? i dont understand that statement as amazon will happily act as a market place for chinese made and supplied goods without having to be in an amazon china warehouse.

 

[EddieM]

I've read a bit about it, seems ludicrous and unnecessary to me.

 

[SirGalahad]

i'm just saying its a way round it, obviously it will cost the end user more as any additional costs will be passed to the consumer.

do you mean for the goods to be fulfilled by amazon the goods have to be available at amazon eu warehouses? i dont understand that statement as amazon will happily act as a market place for chinese made and supplied goods without having to be in an amazon china warehouse.

You can be an Amazon seller where you do fulfillment yourself, manage returns etc or you can use their FBA service.

The fun of doing cross border returns.

 

[SirGalahad]

I've read a bit about it, seems ludicrous and unnecessary to me.

We need to raise taxes and what better way than to get someone else to collect VAT - a nice indirect tax. The best part being VAT is a regressive tax, so hits lower income people more.

 

[EddieM]

We need to raise taxes and what better way than to get someone else to collect VAT - a nice indirect tax. The best part being VAT is a regressive tax, so hits lower income people more.

Well... I suppose we have been able to scrap VAT on sanitary products, but this change is silly, why would a small trader be forced to register with HMRC, if it was the other way round, you rightly tell them to get stuffed.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Well... I suppose we have been able to scrap VAT on sanitary products,

Which the UK could have done in 2015, but MPs voted against it.

Tampon tax: Here are the MPs who voted against the amendment to scrap it
Politicians voted against removing the so called “tampon tax” currently levied on female sanitary products on Monday.
The motion, brought by Labour, was defeated by 305 votes to 287 with
just three Conservative MPs rebelling against the whips – and they were all men.

Every other Conservative MP voted against the amendment, as well as two UP (Ulster Unionist Party) MPs.


Rose Troup Buchanan
Wednesday 28 October 2015 10:58
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...oted-against-amendment-scrap-it-a6711606.html​