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ban-all-sheds said:Don't flatter yourself - they're just spying on your wife in the hot tub....
thats not true!, (hot tubs not working yet)
ban-all-sheds said:Don't flatter yourself - they're just spying on your wife in the hot tub....
breezer said:ban-all-sheds said:Don't flatter yourself - they're just spying on your wife in the hot tub....
thats not true!, (hot tubs not working yet)
FWL_Engineer said:masona said:Right next question
I need to run approx 2m 13amp flex cable across my concrete patio and want to buried it in the ground to prevent trip hazard plus making it look tidy. I understand you have to have a minimum depth but in this case I can't.I have 75mm concrete on top of 400mm hardcore, can I just grind out a channel approx 75mm deep and buried a cable conduit in and topped up with new concrete with red cement highlighting the wire is under there. Is this okay ?
What heavy duty conduit would you recommend ?
Question..why does it need to be flexible cable?
I understand what you're saying but I'm a bit nervous having the socket near the water area specially with children around if they try to unplug it with wet hands or water and electricity together, would you not agree to have it out of reach approx 4m away from the hot tub with a SY Multi Flex Cables ? I was thinking of other people safety or am I going over the top ?ban-all-sheds said:Can you not locate the socket somewhere where it won't be a problem when used, and supply that via buried SWA?
Yes, they put the cable in as some people have it in the middle of the garden away from the socket etc....ban-all-sheds said:It doesn't sound like they are planning to put any cables in -
Yup, OTT - teach the little blighters to respect electricity.masona said:I understand what you're saying but I'm a bit nervous having the socket near the water area specially with children around if they try to unplug it with wet hands or water and electricity together, would you not agree to have it out of reach approx 4m away from the hot tub with a SY Multi Flex Cables ? I was thinking of other people safety or am I going over the top ?
You need to check with them exactly what they will and will not do v-a-v the electrical side of the installation. You say they put the cable in as some people have it in the middle, but you also say "they will supply the cable and do the connection run (approx 2m ) to the hot tub to a 13 amp plug via the waterproof socket"Yes, they put the cable in as some people have it in the middle of the garden away from the socket etc....
In zones A and B, switchgear, controlgear and accessories shall not be installed except for swimming pools where it is not possible to locate socket-outlets outside Zone B, when socket-outlets complying with BS EN 60309-2 may be installed if they are;
(i) more than 1.25 meters outside the border of zone A and
(ii) at least 0.3 meters above the floor, and
(iii) protected by either;
(a) a residual current device complying with the relevent British Standards and with Regulation 412-06-02, or
(b) electrical seperation (Regulation 413-06) with the safety Isolating transformer placed outside zones A, B, or C.
Regulation 602-07-02
In Zone C, a socket-outlet, switch or accessory is permitted ONLY if it is;
(i) protected individually by electrical seperation (Regulation 413-06), or
(ii) protected by SELV (Regulation 411-02), or
(iii) a residual current device complying with the relevent British Standards and having the characteristics as detailed in Regulation 412-06-02, or
(iv) a shaver socket complying with BS3535
602-08 Other Equipment.
602-08-01 Socket-outlets shall comply with BS EN 60309-2.
602-08-02 In zones A and B, only current using equipment designed for use in swimming pools shall be installed.
Thanks for that, I've not seen them before.Can't open the lid without isolating the socket from the supply.
No, sorry I mis-led you, the hot tub do not come with any standard length of cable beacause everybody garden layout is difference. (2m is my distance from the hot tub to the socket and at 2m high under the soffit of the summerhouse, total 4m run). All we have to do is to fit the waterproof socket ready for them. This is why I was interested to know what cable would they be using, I know they are factory trained by the company but will they follow the electricity regulations if they're not electrician ?You said they said the hot tub comes with a 2m cable that they expect to be able to plug in.
Okay, are you saying I cannot use this which was recommended by the hot tub company ?FWL_Engineer said:The hot tub is fixed equipment OUTSIDE the equipotential zone..that should NEVER EVER be supplied by a Masterseal socket.
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