Fitting a new kitchen light with low profile mounting base?

[r0by]

I've removed an old light fitting with 4 GU10 downlights from the kitchen which had a large base:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2wuq8qou8mbhp36/Photo 09-12-2012 15 36 08.jpg

The connections in the ceiling have a lot of connectors:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5teiglju36itmic/Photo 09-12-2012 15 35 46.jpg

It doesn't look as if the new light fitting will be able to fit all these bit in as it has a much smaller mounting area.

Does anyone know where I can get some kind of mounting box that will attach to the ceiling and then in turn I can attach the light to that?

I've been looking at b&q and screwfix but can't seem to find anything.

 

[OwainDIYer]

cut a hole in the ceiling and fit one of these
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MTMDLB6.html

 

[RF Lighting]

Screwfix sell them too. You could fit a single socket dry lining box if the fitting will cover it and even B&Q sell those.

 

[r0by]

that's what I needed thanks for the advice.

 

[Taylortwocities]

You'll need to examine the ceiling before "cutting a hole".

Most surface-mounted lights sit on a joist or a noggin to give the ceiling strength to support the light (eg the fluorescent tube that was there in the first place).

That may mean that cutting a hole is not practical.

 

[Astra99]

Don't mix up the black neutrals and (what looks like) the black switched live! Any errors on reconnection could have unexpected results!

 

[r0by]

yeah I had a quick look last night and it didn't look like it would be that easy to cut a hole out.

I might just try pick out some plaster board stuff all the connectors up into the hole and then fix the base plate which should give me enough room.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

stuff all the connectors up into the hole.

Not without putting them in an enclosure first.

What is under all that tape anyway - are there actually "connectors"?

And remember they must remain accessible for inspection unless you use an approved maintenance free junction box.

 

[r0by]

yeap they are just connectors wrapped in tape.

Do they need to go in a junction box by regulation?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Yes, to comply with the Wiring Regulations.

Which is not strictly a legal requirement, but compliance with Part P of the Building Regulations is, and in practice there's no workable way to do that except by complying with the Wiring Regulations.

Same issue with accessibility - if you use screwed connectors the Wiring Regulations say they must be accessible.